Sold my PT111 about a year ago and thought I was done with Taurus for no other reason than I was satisfied with what I was using. Then I ran across someone needing some cash for a blued pd with IWB holster and a box of 45LC shells. Gun was never shot and still had the factory protective oil on it. This thing is a hoot to shoot shot shells through. I guess when I get through playing I will get serious about finding some self defense rounds to carry in it. I had wanted one for a while as a snake gun when I was fishing in some of the holes I go to.