[kmw1954]

While driving home this afternoon I caught a bit of a story that some congress person just introduced a new bill to enact an ammunition sales tax. Didn't catch where or who but it was just introduced to day. The radio was on AM560 Chicago but this wasn't about Cook Counties already in place ammunition sales tax. Haven't been able to find anything online.

 

[CaptainMorgan]

I'm not the least bit surprised, they will do anything they can to affect the legal gun owner. They aren't about stopping crime, it is about control and about making those who are crying for government help feel that they are heard so they pay up in votes.
Only those who are completely naive believe the passing of laws will help.

 

[Fishinkeylargo]

I have seen reference to a federal ammo and gun tax over the last few days. I have not looked into it to see what it is about or if even real.

 

[ICUKev]

I'm not the least bit surprised, they will do anything they can to affect the legal gun owner. They aren't about stopping crime, it is about control and about making those who are crying for government help feel that they are heard so they pay up in votes.
Only those who are completely naive believe the passing of laws will help.

Also it's a way for the greedy politicians to profit off of stupidity. Everyone hates guns but how can I make a buck off both sides???? I'll create some stupid bill and get voted back in by snowflakes and make money off the freedom loving people at the same time. Win, win!

 

[olfarhors]

I ma sure that a lot of these people do not care, I suspect that most just do not realize that IF/when they put the many people that are employed in the Gun world out of work what kind of impact that it will have on this country and the economy.
manufactures, truck drivers, BATF employees and other Government employees, multitudes of employees at the retail and wholesale level, then figure in holster manufactures, ammo manufactures, on and on.
there must be 100 million plus people that make tactical accessory rails for just the AR-15.

 

[Desperado]

From what I can gather, it is an ILLinois democratic Congressional Representative by the name of Danny Davis, along with an ILLinois democratic gubernatorial candidate by the name of Chris Kennedy that are proposing these taxes.

More information here: Davis, Kennedy introduce legislation to increase taxes on guns, ammunition | abc7chicago.com

 

[jeeper1]

I thought there was already an 11% tax on ammunition. (Massey-Fergason or some such) Or is my memory faulty.

 

[Smokewagon]

Sounds just like politicians. A miniscule number of the population screws up, so all the population must be punished.

 

[kmw1954]

I thought there was already an 11% tax on ammunition. (Massey-Fergason or some such) Or is my memory faulty.

This would be on top of that. You know, Tax the Tax. Just like they do in Cook County with their 5 cents a bullet Tax.

 

[Peacemakr40]

Then it's only fair to add a Facebook/twitter/youtube tax as well. Add a protest tax, reintroduce a Poll tax and hell, lets tax batteries for electrics and hybrids while we're at it.

 

[Rickenbacher39]

there must be 100 million plus people that make tactical accessory rails for just the AR-15.

Yeah and they are all in China.

 

[jturner3]

Noooo!!!! I don’t like taxes

 

[chefduane]

This is not something new. I have a very good friend that works for the State of Maryland in Annapolis. He said they've been pushing for an increased tax on bullets for years.

 

[230JHP]

Politicians look for any means possible to transfer wealth, since they can make sure some of it either sticks to their fingers or is spent to their benefit on its way through the system.

All they have to do is correctly estimate the pain threshold and political clout of the people they decide to take money from, balanced against the political advantage of enriching the people they say will benefit from the money.

Currently gun owners are the whipping boys, so anything that can be spun to take money from them, ostensibly to be used to make up for the damage 'caused' by guns, looks appealing to people whose depth of thought is that 'something should be done'.

 

[BigBlue]

So we have a murderer, in Florida, that was intent on killing as many innocent children as possible and the idea here is to tax ammo to stop these murder sprees? Make the ammo so expensive that only rich people can afford to commit murder? I know I'm not all that smart, but I don't get it.

 

[pegasus]

So we have a murderer, in Florida, that was intent on killing as many innocent children as possible and the idea here is to tax ammo to stop these murder sprees? Make the ammo so expensive that only rich people can afford to commit murder? I know I'm not all that smart, but I don't get it.

That premise was the subject of jokes by Chris Rock at a stage show once. It's on youtube but don't want to post the link here, as he uses profanity, and don't want to violate any rules. It's easy to find however by searching "Chris Rock on gun control" The basic premise is he's opposed to gun control, and likes guns. He then says what we need is bullet control. If bullets cost $5 grand a piece, there'd be no more innocent bystanders.

When it comes to self defense, in many places in the country, we already have a financial penalty for shooting, in a way. It's not 5 grand a bullet either. There's an old saying, "Every bullet comes with a lawyer attached" is true in some places. If you shoot in self defense, there is the possibility that it's going to cost you a lot of money. I know it's an extreme example, but the total amount of legal spending on the Zimmerman case allegedly was 10 million dollars, and for what? That's the criminal side only, not civil. There have been many others where the criminal side expendature costs totaled one million dollars. It cost 50 grand just to get a good self defense lawyer to start to take your case in some places.

Real criminals however, don't care about taxes. Even if they were to pay them, it's just the cost of doing business.

 

[BigBlue]

New taxes, new laws and criminals walk right through them as fast as they walk through gun free zone signs. Maybe if they had a law that said you couldn't commit murder? No one would dare break that law.

 

[olfarhors]

So we have a murderer, in Florida, that was intent on killing as many innocent children as possible and the idea here is to tax ammo to stop these murder sprees? Make the ammo so expensive that only rich people can afford to commit murder? I know I'm not all that smart, but I don't get it.

Well I don't know how it is in Penn.
but here when a criminal steals a gun they always unload them and leave the ammo.
so pricing ammo out of the ability for the street thug to buy it makes perfect sense to me.

 

[GreenWolf70]

Guess I better keep stocking up on reloading components.

BTW, a poll tax would have no effect on Dem voters because dead people don't pay taxes. Better would be background checks comparable to gun background checks at voter registration.