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Matts gun has extracted rounds while firing with no issues whatsoever.. The problem he is having is clearing the chamber during dropping the mag and clearing the gun for cleaning/maintenance.

I was there today and we made sure everything was properly assembled. Gun function tested well. I put my Ruger mag in and it cleared the first time but not after subsequent rounds. Same with his mags.

When we racked the beejeesus out of it the rounds cleared out. A LOT of force was required. It got stuck with the nose slightly cocked to the RH side, case head pretty much in line with breech face.

It seems as though it doesn't want to clear hardball factory rounds. I'm sure we could load shorter rds but it should clear factory.

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well generally speaking most semi automatics don't take well to baby stepping, regardless of what you do, chamber, eject/extract, load the magazine, etc.
IF you stop and think about the weapon being designed to operate at the speed and recoil that the slide operates at then you can likely see where babying this things may not work best.
when you jack the slide back then jack it back, and it don't hurt to cant the gun to the right and maybe give it a little toss to help things along.
do a U tube search under clearance of feeding/ jams and watch.
same with inserting the mag, a good firm slap to lock them in correctly is in order or you get a dropped mag, no feeding and a click instead of a bang.
now if the gun is failing to extract when its fired that may be the gun or the shooter causing that.
additionally you might want to tune the extractor to be sure its getting a proper good grip on the case rim.
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I'm certainly no expert on 1911s but I'm inclined to agree with Olfahors, especially since I can't come up with any other ideas! Just think about the speed and force generated when the gun fires compared to hand racking the slide. You even said yourself that when you racked the beejeesus out of the slide it worked. Several years ago with my 1st PT1911 the extractor chipped at the end on the hook and it wouldn't extract reliably with either method, by hand or firing. That's why I'm inclined to agree with Olfahors.
 

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I am leaning toward an extractor issue as long as nothing looks amiss with the barrel and ramp. Here's a video on checking the extractor:

 

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BTW..tells us more about the gun..new? Used...estimated number of rounds if used.
 

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If you cleaned the gun, how deep did you go?
Suggestion, take a tooth brush with some Hoppes and scrub real well
behind the extractor against the breach face, probably have a lot of carbon built up on
there...................;)
 

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Seems to me if the gun extracts any brass just fine while it's being fired and only has a problem ejecting the brass when it is being racked by hand then the problem is not the extractor.

I believe the Opie is simply not working the slide hard enough manually to do the ejection. Maybe he has not had a handgun with a strong spring in the past.

I have a Browning hi-power that eject fine while being fired but it is a absolute bear to manually work the slide and eject the brass.

Take some time to get used to the gun and maybe by yourself a tennis ball and when you're watching TV or whatever just sit there and squeeze it.

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As long as we're talking extractors, NEVER load a round through the ejector port but ALWAYS off the magazine. Loading through the ejector port forces the extractor to jump over the case rim rather than have the case rim be introduced up through the bottom, sliding up under the extractor hook.
 

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Seems to me if the gun extracts any brass just fine while it's being fired and only has a problem ejecting the brass when it is being racked by hand then the problem is not the extractor.

I believe the Opie is simply not working the slide hard enough manually to do the ejection. Maybe he has not had a handgun with a strong spring in the past.
I'm with Don. What matters is how it deals with empty cases, not live rounds. I would never adjust an extractor over a semiauto's ability to eject live rounds. We've heard this type of complaint from a wide variety of pistols/brands. Rack the heck out of if if you're clearing live rounds, but if you've gotta wiggle and shake, so what?
 

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I'm with Don. What matters is how it deals with empty cases, not live rounds. I would never adjust an extractor over a semiauto's ability to eject live rounds. We've heard this type of complaint from a wide variety of pistols/brands. Rack the heck out of if if you're clearing live rounds, but if you've gotta wiggle and shake, so what?
My point of posting the video was to show the tests for an extractor, not to suggest that the OP take it out to try and tune it...especially if not talented as a gunsmith. It is good to know how to pull the extractor for the eventual cleaning it will need.
 

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I'm with Don. What matters is how it deals with empty cases, not live rounds. I would never adjust an extractor over a semiauto's ability to eject live rounds. We've heard this type of complaint from a wide variety of pistols/brands. Rack the heck out of if if you're clearing live rounds, but if you've gotta wiggle and shake, so what?
Ghost, the live round is getting jammed tight against the breech face and the front RH side of the ejection port. Jammed real bad. OP is a strong young man that works construction. I told him to rack the gun a lot to loosen up the RSA. W/O live rounds.

He is new to guns and I am not. This is definitely an ejection issue in my opinion. We hope to clear it up with racking the slide and loosening things up. Lubrication is not an issue either.
 

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My point of posting the video was to show the tests for an extractor, not to suggest that the OP take it out to try and tune it...especially if not talented as a gunsmith. It is good to know how to pull the extractor for the eventual cleaning it will need.

Thanks for the vid Czechbikr. I will get with the OP next week and see if the gun is extracting live rounds after he racks the slide all week. I can certainly remove the extractor and do the tests with him and give the slide a deep clean. The round isn't hanging onto the extractor when we examine the gun but it may be hindering the extraction to the point its slowing the round down clearing the ejection port.
 

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I have only had the gun a week and about 150 rounds threw it.
Any extraction problems with spent cases? Some of what I'm reading in the latest posts makes me think it might need a tune, but really the way it deals with actual firing is what matters.
 
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Any extraction problems with spent cases? Some of what I'm reading in the latest posts makes me think it might need a tune, but really the way it deals with actual firing is what matters.

Agreed and thanks for the reply. I am going to get in touch with him this weekend. I think I will do a thorough slide disassembly and clean up. I will do the extractor test. I am wondering if the extractor holds onto the round too tight if I should lightly unbend it?
 

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Agreed and thanks for the reply. I am going to get in touch with him this weekend. I think I will do a thorough slide disassembly and clean up. I will do the extractor test. I am wondering if the extractor holds onto the round too tight if I should lightly unbend it?
Personally, I would not. It will relax in time. As other have said, if it functions as it should while firing...it's not broken. If it causes him so much grief that he can't sleep at night, then he should call Taurus and see if they want to look at it. Free return shipping only is valid for a limited time after the purchase of a new firearm. After that, if he is faced with paying the return shipping for any repairs he would probably want a qualified 1911 gunsmith locally to tune it up and the money is close to a wash and there's less turnaround time.
 
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Personally, I would not. It will relax in time. As other have said, if it functions as it should while firing...it's not broken. If it causes him so much grief that he can't sleep at night, then he should call Taurus and see if they want to look at it. Free return shipping only is valid for a limited time after the purchase of a new firearm. After that, if he is faced with paying the return shipping for any repairs he would probably want a qualified 1911 gunsmith locally to tune it up and the money is close to a wash and there's less turnaround time.

I know you are right. I will give it a good deep clean throughout the slide and leave it as is. I just hate to see it get stuck while ejecting live rounds. Young fella doesn't want issues with his first 1911.

His front sight is already dicked up. We took it out a couple of weeks ago and the sights were off. His allen wrench didn't fit so he took it to a gunsmith who then promptly drilled out the set screw. Taurus is sending him a new sight. He is a little overwhelmed at this point.
 

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I know you are right. I will give it a good deep clean throughout the slide and leave it as is. I just hate to see it get stuck while ejecting live rounds. Young fella doesn't want issues with his first 1911.

His front sight is already dicked up. We took it out a couple of weeks ago and the sights were off. His allen wrench didn't fit so he took it to a gunsmith who then promptly drilled out the set screw. Taurus is sending him a new sight. He is a little overwhelmed at this point.

Phew...I would be finding a new gunsmith I think. He needs to run a few hundred rounds down the pipe to shake it out before the return shipping is over. I've had work down on my by a local gunsmith rather than sending it out for 50 +/- dollars and waiting. BUT...you have to find a good gunsmith who knows 1911's...they all do not.
 
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