I have a 85 I think it was 2003 production ( it's pic is in the gallery ) also have a 605 in SS like both of them a lot I picked up the 85 used and for what I bought it for couldn't be happier, it shoots POA at 15 yds which is a trick for my eyes anymore, I keep it in the vehicle locked up for just in case I forgot to put something on my hip or have a failure on my primary. At under 200.00 used I didn't think I could go wrong.