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I am really wanting to get a Rossi in 38/357. Had a chance to fondle one at a gun show recently in another caliber. I have heard that the metal around the loading gate is SHARP. Ran my thumb over it & it did feel sharp to me. Any of you guys have an answer for this? Why would they keep making these like that? I heard one guy on another forum complain that the first time he loaded the thing, it made him BLEED !
The stainless could be filed pretty easily, but the blued one would need to be re-finished if you took a file to it.
 

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Because their other business is bandaids? :D
 

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It's a drag to want something that is inherently a POS.
Want a 357/38sp, blued, 16"barrel. Just going to be a
range gun / safe queen. Been looking at the Rossi for some
time. But every time I get ready to hit the BUY button, I hear
more reasons not to buy one. That's really a shame, they need
to improve the quality.
 

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It's a drag to want something that is inherently a POS.
Want a 357/38sp, blued, 16"barrel. Just going to be a
range gun / safe queen. Been looking at the Rossi for some
time. But every time I get ready to hit the BUY button, I hear
more reasons not to buy one. That's really a shame, they need
to improve the quality.
I take strong objection to the assertion that the Rossi M92 is inherently a POS. That is like saying a Corolla is a POS because it doesn't have the fit and finish of a Lexus. If you want a Model 1892 with edge beautifully broken and the action slick as glass, then you will have to pay a Lexus price.

I love my M92 but I admit to doing a bit of work on it myself. I could have bought a Winchester M92 (if I could have found one) and paid the difference of having a factory gunsmith do that extra finish work for me. Or I could have used it as is with some of the rough edges, which I did for quite a while.

Instead, I did an action job and refinished the stock. It was a great winter project. I broke those sharp edges on the loading gate as part of the action job. Use will round the edges as well, but will take a lot longer. I like working on my equipment, whether it is fishing, boating, or shooting (once a geek, always a geek). By working on the equipment, I learn the ins and outs of it so that when something doesn't feel or operate right, I have a very good idea what needs to be done, but more importantly I am more confident in the equipment if I worked on it.

A Rossi is a gun where the parts are all machine made and the tolerances are designed to require no hand fitting during assembly. You can do some hand fitting and polishing, pay a gunsmith to do it (and still pay less than for the Winchester), or run the gun as it is (the 1892 design is pretty well proven). Or buy the Winchester (the Marlin is the same class of gun manufacture). Can you get a bad one? Sure, from any of the manufacturers. Your choices, and ain't it great to have them.
 

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I do appreciate your comments. But I won't buy a product that I am guaranteed to have to work on.
I had the same type situation recently with a Citadel 1911. Wouldn't go into full battery. Should I have tried
to fix it myself? No, it did it right out of the box so I shipped it back to Armscor. So now naturally, I have an
attitude about Citadel 1911's. And I didn't buy it because I NEEDED another 1911. I just liked the looks of it.
Would I recommend it to a friend? No way.
Same with the Rossi. Pretty much everyone I've talked to that owns one, or has them for sale, agree that the
LOADING GATE makes the gun a POS. Don't think you can dispute that.
But I do want one, so I would have to accept that part of it & hope the rest of the gun is satisfactory.
 

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I take strong objection to the assertion that the Rossi M92 is inherently a POS. That is like saying a Corolla is a POS because it doesn't have the fit and finish of a Lexus. If you want a Model 1892 with edge beautifully broken and the action slick as glass, then you will have to pay a Lexus price.

I love my M92 but I admit to doing a bit of work on it myself. I could have bought a Winchester M92 (if I could have found one) and paid the difference of having a factory gunsmith do that extra finish work for me. Or I could have used it as is with some of the rough edges, which I did for quite a while.

Instead, I did an action job and refinished the stock. It was a great winter project. I broke those sharp edges on the loading gate as part of the action job. Use will round the edges as well, but will take a lot longer. I like working on my equipment, whether it is fishing, boating, or shooting (once a geek, always a geek). By working on the equipment, I learn the ins and outs of it so that when something doesn't feel or operate right, I have a very good idea what needs to be done, but more importantly I am more confident in the equipment if I worked on it.

A Rossi is a gun where the parts are all machine made and the tolerances are designed to require no hand fitting during assembly. You can do some hand fitting and polishing, pay a gunsmith to do it (and still pay less than for the Winchester), or run the gun as it is (the 1892 design is pretty well proven). Or buy the Winchester (the Marlin is the same class of gun manufacture). Can you get a bad one? Sure, from any of the manufacturers. Your choices, and ain't it great to have them.
Your comparison is all wrong. the Rossi is not a Corolla, the Corolla usually works 'straight out of the box' and the fit and finish is acceptable for the price.

The Rossi is something else, perhaps it is what Skoda used to be before they were taken over by VW. They worked, but needed a lot of finishing off.

If you have not had any experience of a pre VW Skoda, think Edsell.

You are totally right regarding you get what you pay for, I replaced the Rossi with a Henry. No comparison.
 

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I would buy a Henry, or a Marlin, etc. But I want what the Rossi has to offer.

Wood stock
Short barrel
357 Mag
Blued receiver & barrel.

I'm just disappointed that the Rossi quality hasn't improved.
 

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I'm very happy with mine. It was fun to do an action job on it!! My loading gate is a little sharp but not enough to cut you. Unless maybe you have girly hands. I think the rifles are a great buy.
 

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I don't think Rossi's are a POS. They just need some imput to get them as they should have been in the first place. Some may enjoy that, but I prefer not to - but having said that I do enjoy working on wood, it is almost theraputic.
 

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I would buy a Henry, or a Marlin, etc. But I want what the Rossi has to offer.

Wood stock
Short barrel
357 Mag
Blued receiver & barrel.

I'm just disappointed that the Rossi quality hasn't improved.

It is quite obvious that you do not want a POS so why don't you just go down to your LGS and hand him somewhere close to $1,200.00 for a Winchester 1892, made in Japan. That way you will be happy and we won;t have to listen to you whine when you cut your finger on the loading gate.
 

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I do appreciate your comments. But I won't buy a product that I am guaranteed to have to work on.
I had the same type situation recently with a Citadel 1911. Wouldn't go into full battery. Should I have tried
to fix it myself? No, it did it right out of the box so I shipped it back to Armscor. So now naturally, I have an
attitude about Citadel 1911's. And I didn't buy it because I NEEDED another 1911. I just liked the looks of it.
Would I recommend it to a friend? No way.
Same with the Rossi. Pretty much everyone I've talked to that owns one, or has them for sale, agree that the
LOADING GATE makes the gun a POS. Don't think you can dispute that.
But I do want one, so I would have to accept that part of it & hope the rest of the gun is satisfactory.
I guess I don't know why I was so lucky. I bought the only lever action .357 I could find. It was a Rossi and was the only one they had (they said on the phone theyonly had a Winchester and I was desperate enough in February 2012 to pay the extra but it wasn't the case when I arrived). It worked very well right out of the box, and I never had a single malfunction with it before I worked on it. I had several boxes of ammo through it before I did the action job.

The only thing I did before shooting it the first time was follow the usual advice on any Taurus and did everything I could to flush out the thick shipping grease. I did that by removing the stock (to keep from getting the end grain soaked with oil) and aggressive flushing out the receiver with Gun Scrubber then CLP, let it drain overnight and repeating the process. Then I did work the action a bunch of times (less than 100, I'm sure, given how lazy I am). That probably isn't necessary for a Henry or Winchester. Marlin's reputation for quality recently has been so poor, I wasn't really sorry I couldn't find one.

And I never cut my finger on the loading gate, but I do admit that after breaking and polishing the edges and lightening the spring it is easier to use.
 

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It is quite obvious that you do not want a POS so why don't you just go down to your LGS and hand him somewhere close to $1,200.00 for a Winchester 1892, made in Japan. That way you will be happy and we won;t have to listen to you whine when you cut your finger on the loading gate.
You Sir may crawl back under your rock. If you don't want to read a post that was never directed at you to start with, then don't bother. No one wants to hear your smartass remarks.
 

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It is quite obvious that you do not want a POS so why don't you just go down to your LGS and hand him somewhere close to $1,200.00 for a Winchester 1892, made in Japan. That way you will be happy and we won;t have to listen to you whine when you cut your finger on the loading gate.
I understand, as most do on this forum, that people have differing opinions and can have a lively discussion, and if people ask for advice, they get it. What they do not usually get is uncalled for insults. It isn't whining, he just wants to make sure he puts his hard earned cash into something he is going to be happy with.
 

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I understand, as most do on this forum, that people have differing opinions and can have a lively discussion, and if people ask for advice, they get it. What they do not usually get is uncalled for insults. It isn't whining, he just wants to make sure he puts his hard earned cash into something he is going to be happy with.
Absolutely TRUE. The Rossi offers everything I want physically in a rifle. I love the way it looks. Everything about it is right on. But if the mechanics of the gun are sub-par with the appearance, it would be a safe queen to me.

Everything considered, the Rossi is probably still the best deal. I could buy it, pay a SMITH to smooth out the action & the loading gate & have some fun shooting it. Will see. I have not made up my mind either way.
 

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Absolutely TRUE. The Rossi offers everything I want physically in a rifle. I love the way it looks. Everything about it is right on. But if the mechanics of the gun are sub-par with the appearance, it would be a safe queen to me.

Everything considered, the Rossi is probably still the best deal. I could buy it, pay a SMITH to smooth out the action & the loading gate & have some fun shooting it. Will see. I have not made up my mind either way.
Whether you do the work yourself, or have a smith do it, I highly recommend the Steve's Gunz (Rossi 92 Specialist, Nate Kiowa Jones a.k.a. Steve Young - Professional Gunsmith) video for the how-to and he also has some very useful aftermarket parts that might be of interest such as the aluminum magazine follower. If you don't enjoy shooting a Rossi, I don't think you would enjoy another lever action much more. Just have fun with it.
 

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Yep, I'm aware of this guy. Wife says I need to get real. It's Christmas. Will be putting this off for awhile anyway.

Thanks for your input.
 

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That was a long enough wait. Sold an unused Henry 22lr to fund this purchase.

Finally talked myself into getting the Rossi. Ordered it today from my FFL bud.
Hope the Heritage comes in at the same time. I'm ready for some "Cowboy Shootin'".
I want to thank you guys for your comments & suggestions.

Pics & range report to follow.
 

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I hope you love it like I have mine!
 

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get the steves gunz dvd and do the action job. super easy to follow. take your time. It will teach you everything you need to know about the weapon. I think they are the best deal going. i never had an issue with my 357 or my 45 colt. they may be a bit rough out of the box but they are good weapons that will last a long time of hard use. The slick job is just the icing on the cake. if your getting the 357 we want to see the perma-grin once your done shooting it. the only reason i sold my 357 was i made a shift to all 45 colt.
 
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