I absolutely LOVE my M85UL's DA trigger, the best I've ever owned out of the box. Taurus is very underated, I think, because they don't have S and W stamped on the side plate. But, they're every bit the gun Smith and Wesson is anymore. They have steadily improved over 30 years or so while Smith had declined. This is JMHO, of course. I ain't sayin' I wouldn't buy a Smith, just that you get more for your dollar IMHO with a Taurus. The Smith M642 is a dandy little carry piece, but the DA trigger doesn't compare to Taurus. It's a fine gun and they were selling for about $305 at a local shop not too long ago and if I'd have had the cash at the time, well, I might have bought one. I really love OLD Smiths, still have an early 60s M10, but my newer M66 Taurus's trigger is just as good and that gun shoots a little better. That old Smith was built at the APEX of Smith and Wesson craftsmanship, though. This is probably why Smith and Wesson guns on the used market from that era in good shape bring big money. But, I'd rather have a new Taurus than a used Smith. Again, JMHO. Actually, though, used Tauri go for CHEAP! There isn't the huger following or demand for the marque and that makes 'em a FAR better deal to the guy that just wants a shooter. I've gotten STEALS on my two M66s used. I love those things, too, and carry the 3" a LOT IWB.