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They actually allow CC in Mass.? (sarcasm)

The name of the business is "No name grocery II" If it's a mom and pop place, the employee's job is probably safe. :)

The clerk pulled out his gun, and the customer fell to the ground. With the customer safely out of the way, the clerk shot the suspect three times.

Ahorrio dropped the knife and ran, police say. The clerk chased him and ordered him to the ground before running back to check on customers.

The clerk and the customers escaped injury. Police confiscated the clerk’s weapon and license to carry while the investigation is completed.
A day after the incident, customers came out to support the store clerk, who was not identified.

“I think he did what he had to do. Somebody’s trying to take your stuff, you’ve got to defend yourself, defend your place of business,” one man said. “This is probably what he uses to feed his family. He’s just doing what he’s got to do to protect his.”
Man Armed With Knife Shot By Store Clerk While Attacking Customer « CBS Boston
 

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"Police confiscated the clerk's weapon and license to carry while the investigation is completed." Guilty until proven innocent.

Would like to know the final outcome of this but likely unless the clerk is charged with a crime we'll never know.
 

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"Police confiscated the clerk's weapon and license to carry while the investigation is completed." Guilty until proven innocent.

Would like to know the final outcome of this but likely unless the clerk is charged with a crime we'll never know.
How so? Both are common practice.

Fire a gun in anger or defense and you are not going to see it for quite a while. Doesn't matter if it's 'obvious' what happened, the gun's evidence. The fact that he shot someone isn't being disputed but the circumstances that led to that occurring must be investigated to discover whether or not it was justified.
 

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How so? Both are common practice.

Fire a gun in anger or defense and you are not going to see it for quite a while. Doesn't matter if it's 'obvious' what happened, the gun's evidence. The fact that he shot someone isn't being disputed but the circumstances that led to that occurring must be investigated to discover whether or not it was justified.
Exactly, so now the clerk is unarmed till investigation is done. It's normal procedure but kinda crazy also.
 

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Exactly, so now the clerk is unarmed till investigation is done. It's normal procedure but kinda crazy also.
Agreed. Taking the weapon for evidence, ok. Taking his license so he may not be able to carry a back-up, not so much. Especially so seeing as the situation seems pretty cut and dry that he used it defensively.
 

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Exactly, so now the clerk is unarmed till investigation is done. It's normal procedure but kinda crazy also.

well that would affect me the same way ---that's is after I shot about 40 or so people and they kept confiscating my gun!!!------

you simply must have plan to cover all bases!!!!
 

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Agreed. Taking the weapon for evidence, ok. Taking his license so he may not be able to carry a back-up, not so much. Especially so seeing as the situation seems pretty cut and dry that he used it defensively.
This is exactly what I was thinking. At this point taking his license is penalizing him before he is charged and in my mind wrong. If he is not charged then he was wrongly penalized.

Glad he and his customers were unharmed.
 
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well that would affect me the same way ---that's is after I shot about 40 or so people and they kept confiscating my gun!!!------

you simply must have plan to cover all bases!!!!
Now thats funny I don't care who you are!
 

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I don't see what the problem is. That's what happens when you use a gun even in defense. The gun will be taken into evidence. Note that I said WILL. That's a given.

When and if you get it back sort of depends on the DA and the LEO's.

What condition it's in depends on them and the forensic folks, too. Don't be surprised if somebody has taken an electric inscribing pen to it and marked it with at least part of a case number. The jackwads do it on the side of the frame nice and big. The FBI does it on the trigger guard real small so it can be covered over with cold blue. Either way, it ain't going to be cleaned while they have it and they really don't care. If their chemical processes for pulling forensic evidence from it ruins your finish, you're just SOL. Been there, seen that. That's why my .45 Witness is a strange purplish brown and tries to rust every time the weather changes. One of these days, I'll get around to having it refinished.

Another thing that WILL happen is you are going to jail. Don't matter that the dude who was shot had a knife in one hand, a gun in the other and a baby in his teeth. You are going to jail. They may give you a medal day after tomorrow but, right then and there, to jail you go.

As for what he's saying, he has the right to remain silent but not the ability.

Personally, I don't see a reason to speak to the media at all. By that I mean not even, "No comment". Just walk on by or hang up on them. Any interaction can be spun whichever way they choose. No interaction means nothing for them to spin.

I also don't see the need to speak to law enforcement without legal counsel being present. Again, you have that right and remember the following phrases from the Miranda warning, "anything you say can and will be used against you". Once you are under arrest, law enforcement is not your friend so shut up and let the lawyers earn their money.


Come to think of it, you don't talk about the incident to anybody except for your lawyer, the person you are married to and clergy under the bonds of a confession. Anything you say to anyone else can be used against you. Don't blog, tweet or post about it. For best results, just shut up and stay that way.
 

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That's why you gotta have two.

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OH MY GOD11
only two??
my Goats just fainted and one of them jumped up on the table when they heard that!!!
 
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This is exactly what I was thinking. At this point taking his license is penalizing him before he is charged and in my mind wrong. If he is not charged then he was wrongly penalized.

Glad he and his customers were unharmed.
there isa difference in "Rights" and "Priviledges".
course I live where you really don't need a license to have a weapon.
 
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As to taking away his permit, it's probably the law of the land. I'm impressed he even had a permit there in the People's Republic of Taxachusetts.

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Taking the firearm as evidence would be standard practice, but confiscating his license, not so much. Glad I don't live in Massachusetts.
 
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