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I've been itching to get a new revolver for some time now, I have a snubbie, a couple 22s, one antique s&w that I never had ammo for nor would I dare shoot it as is, I also own 3 Taurus handguns, none of which is a revolver, last fall I missed out on some sales and that $40 mail in rebate Taurus had so I have been looking for a deal, naturally I fall back to Taurus by default due to the price point, regardless what type I am looking at so I'm looking for some input/advice preferably from those who owned one and put a considerable amount of rounds through them.

first on the wish list a cheap 38, 2 to 4 inch barrel, not sure what I want, but I'm tired shooting 38's out of my 357, having to clean up those carbon rings bother me, a small snubbie would be cool to carry, a longer barrel one for plinking, ultimately I'll probably end up with both, maybe same gun with different barrels.

second I'm interested in the larger revolvers, 6 inch or larger in 357, the 627 caught my eye, the 608 also go big or go home, 66 appears to be a plain 627, correct me if I'm wrong, 65 is a six shot, I have medium hands and recoil don't bother me, maybe I'll find a store with all these side by side to play with but for now I wonder if you guys could sort these for me big to small, all these I believe are 6.5 inches max, I haven't seen any longer barreled ones, let me know if there are any I should be looking at, I wonder weather I'd be just as happy with a 65 or 66 seems they are a bit lower in price than a 627 or should I just look at the 627 for reasons other than looks and porting ie how different from each other are those revolvers? do some have better triggers than others? how would a 627 compare to a 608 trigger wise, etc

any input much appreciated, even non Taurus brands, I have a feeling there will be some sales around Memorial Day

Thank you
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Wow, your criteria is pretty open ended ! I'd sure look at a model 85 or 856 if I wanted a 2 inch 38 special, and a model 82 if I wanted a 4 inch barrel. As far as a 357 magnum, the 2 inch 605 would solve your 38 special issue, it would shoot both cartridges in a compact package. The Model 66 is 7 shots, while the 65 is your standard 6 shot proposition. The 627 is the Taurus Tracker and I guess they still make it, but I'm not sure.

Good luck with your search !
 

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Ok so by size from smallest to largest looking at .357's, 605 either 2 or 3 inch barrel, 617 2 inch barrel, 696 3 or 6.5 inch barrel, (assuming these are available at some point) 627 4 or 6.5" barrel, 65 and 66 3, 4, 6 inch barrels ( there may be other lengths these are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head), 607 and 608 4, 6, 8. The 617, 627, and 696 are all built on the Tracker or compact frame so they are really all the same gun with different barrel lengths. The 65 and 66 are both on the medium frame. The 65 is fixed sighted and the 66 adjustable. The new 65's are also 6 shot while the new 66's are 7 shot. The 607 and 608 are on the large frame. The 607 is a 7 shot and the 608 is an 8 shot. If its of any interest to you I believe that the 607 was the first revolvers to chamber more than 6 357's.

Same system for .38's would be, 85 2, 3, or 4 inch barrels, 817 2 inch barrel, 80 and 82 4 and 6 inch barrels. The 817 is basically the same gun as the 617. The 80 and the 82 are basically the same guns as the 65 and 66.
 

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Ok so by size from smallest to largest looking at .357's, 605 either 2 or 3 inch barrel, 617 2 inch barrel, 696 3 or 6.5 inch barrel, (assuming these are available at some point) 627 4 or 6.5" barrel, 65 and 66 3, 4, 6 inch barrels ( there may be other lengths these are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head), 607 and 608 4, 6, 8. The 617, 627, and 696 are all built on the Tracker or compact frame so they are really all the same gun with different barrel lengths. The 65 and 66 are both on the medium frame. The 65 is fixed sighted and the 66 adjustable. The new 65's are also 6 shot while the new 66's are 7 shot. The 607 and 608 are on the large frame. The 607 is a 7 shot and the 608 is an 8 shot. If its of any interest to you I believe that the 607 was the first revolvers to chamber more than 6 357's.

Same system for .38's would be, 85 2, 3, or 4 inch barrels, 817 2 inch barrel, 80 and 82 4 and 6 inch barrels. The 817 is basically the same gun as the 617. The 80 and the 82 are basically the same guns as the 65 and 66.
that is pretty much right along the lines I was hoping for a reply, I have been looking at online pictures and descriptions, they all pretty much look alike couldn't tell how they compare size wise, for example I just learned 66, 627 and 607, all 7 shot 6.5 inch, so do I just get the tracker by default?
you pretty much cleared that up, I assume and correct me if i'm wrong, I'll also check some specs, a 607 should be considerably heavier and larger than a 627, they are both ported, 7 rd and adjustable sights, they shoot the same round, would it be reasonable to assume a 607 is heavier duty and likely more durable, better target toy? not saying a 627 wouldn't, but here's my problem I hardly ever sell anything, at all, I like to make informed buys because likely its going to be a keeper, even junky stuff I tend to tinker with till I get it, I cant have them all Yet, and likely if a deal comes along I'll just get whatever that is but at least I am somewhat familiar with the Taurus line

of the 3 frame sizes which individual features do you guys prefer, for example, the 327 grips are kind of funny, I read they work well thou, I think earlier, I was looking on buds, they had 2 608's listed I could not tell them apart, I believe a slightly different price and part number, couldn't tell if there were different grips or what.

does any of the three frames have a better trigger than the others, I think I read the 627 was supposedly fancier
 

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I don't want a 357 snubbie, I got one, and I don't care for shooting 38's out of it, I'd rather load some mild cast 357's, heck I'd even rather load the 357 cases with 38 charges, there's just something about shooting a lot of short cases in a long chamber that bothers me, plus the carbon buildup, plus the extra large gap that bullet has to jump, minus the short barrel, I do ok with it but not happy.

so I was considering a 38 special, I like the snubies for size and carry, the longer barreled for target, heck I was looking at the rock island one 6 shot 4 inch and cheap too,

again Taurus alone has several types of 85's, this is where I couldn't decide i read of some finish issues in various threads, poly blue or stainless? they are all about the same price? how they hold up? they all have the same grips? I assume all fixed sights, maybe the 82 may have adjustable?
 

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My humble opinion, please take it with a grain of salt.

In .38 Special, the model 85 is a good CC 38 revolver. I have two, one is currently "vacationing" in Miami, the other is in rotation with my LC9s for EDC. The only improvement I made to my two 85's is to paint the sights, and added Altamont grips. Both changes improved the guns. I am not real impressed with the model 82, but that is because I prefer a .357 magnum round in that size revolver.

In .357 Magnum, I prefer a 3 inch barrel or longer, but I would not overlook the model 605. Although a 2 inch barrel .357 Magnum, it is a good value in both price and quality. The 66 and 65 are good revolvers also, but I have a preference for another brand for .357 Magnum revolvers.

IIRC, the model 85 is no longer being produced new, so any 85's may be left over stock.
And also, I prefer the stainless finish over the "matte black" finish in Taurus revolvers. The new "matte black" finish leaves A LOT to be desired.
 
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I appreciate your input, grain of salt and all, I may end up with a 605 at some point, even an 85 or whatever their next one will be, but they are not at the top of my list, since I have a short barel 357 allready.
What I'd like first is more of a target revolver or 2, one in 38 one in 357, kinda split on the 38 between a 4 and a 2 inch first.
Mostly I was looking for a comparison among the larger ones 6 inch or better, although not as pricey as other brands still a good chunk, trying to decide on one.
I've also looked at other brands, and used, these Taurus revolvers are pretty much a Smith and Wesson knockoff, saw some used Rugers but considerably more expensive, dam near twice a new 65. I don't have a Ruger but I don't believe I ever heard something bad about that brand ever.

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that is pretty much right along the lines I was hoping for a reply, I have been looking at online pictures and descriptions, they all pretty much look alike couldn't tell how they compare size wise, for example I just learned 66, 627 and 607, all 7 shot 6.5 inch, so do I just get the tracker by default?
you pretty much cleared that up, I assume and correct me if i'm wrong, I'll also check some specs, a 607 should be considerably heavier and larger than a 627, they are both ported, 7 rd and adjustable sights, they shoot the same round, would it be reasonable to assume a 607 is heavier duty and likely more durable, better target toy? not saying a 627 wouldn't, but here's my problem I hardly ever sell anything, at all, I like to make informed buys because likely its going to be a keeper, even junky stuff I tend to tinker with till I get it, I cant have them all Yet, and likely if a deal comes along I'll just get whatever that is but at least I am somewhat familiar with the Taurus line

of the 3 frame sizes which individual features do you guys prefer, for example, the 327 grips are kind of funny, I read they work well thou, I think earlier, I was looking on buds, they had 2 608's listed I could not tell them apart, I believe a slightly different price and part number, couldn't tell if there were different grips or what.

does any of the three frames have a better trigger than the others, I think I read the 627 was supposedly fancier
The 607 is a large frame gun but they have been discontinued and replaced with the 608. It should be more durable than a 627. My personal Taurus .357's are a 6.5 inch 627 and a 3 inch 605. If I come upon a 607 I'd buy it though.
 

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I've been looking at the 327 magnum, thou at the moment wasn't considering a single action, they are cool but maybe later, I'm sticking with swing out cylinder for now, thou I hardly ever shoot double action, it's that extra option there to have it
 

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Since you said that suggestions didn't need to be Taurus branded, let me suggest this: for the "cheap" 38 Special, have a look at the RIA M206, It runs in the $250 range. I've been considering one for the same reasons that you are, not scrubbing out that 1/10" of powder residue form the .357 cylinders. It's a bare bones revolver but the reviews aren't totally bad. BTW, the RIA M206 is available in some sort of "satin/nickel" finish but it seems that one is only avail with a "bobbed" hammer. I like the SA/DA option on the ones with an exposed hammer.
For the "big" gun, I'd consider the Taurus 65 or 66. Both are available in a 6" barrel. Price will probably be in the $400 Range (give or take). SS (bead blasted) is nice but some like the matte finish. Many here (me included) feel that the 65/66 Taurus revolvers lead the parade in their lineup of fine handguns. Just sayin'.
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Another option for your consideration is the 6-shot .38 Special Charter Arms Police Undercover model #73840 (https://charterfirearms.com/collections/undercover/products/73840-police-undercover). A bit more expensive than the Rock Island Arms revolver (seems to run around the $340-$360 range - Charter Undercover 38 Special 6 Round Revolver - 73840 | CenterfireGuns, for example, at $337 with free shipping at time of posting), but is stainless steel. Lots of accessories available from other companies as well as Charter Arms through their online store (grips, bobbed hammer, etc.).

Just a thought, since not everyone notices that Charter Arms still makes a very few 6-shot models, along with their numerous smaller 5-shot models. Good luck!
 

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I have seen these on sale in the last month, I have no idea if any are left.

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AIM is asking $300 for the Model 10.
 

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Since you said that suggestions didn't need to be Taurus branded, let me suggest this: for the "cheap" 38 Special, have a look at the RIA M206, It runs in the $250 range. I've been considering one for the same reasons that you are, not scrubbing out that 1/10" of powder residue form the .357 cylinders. It's a bare bones revolver but the reviews aren't totally bad. BTW, the RIA M206 is available in some sort of "satin/nickel" finish but it seems that one is only avail with a "bobbed" hammer. I like the SA/DA option on the ones with an exposed hammer.
For the "big" gun, I'd consider the Taurus 65 or 66. Both are available in a 6" barrel. Price will probably be in the $400 Range (give or take). SS (bead blasted) is nice but some like the matte finish. Many here (me included) feel that the 65/66 Taurus revolvers lead the parade in their lineup of fine handguns. Just sayin'.
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this is exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for, the RIA M200 was on my wish list, its a 4 inch 38 special, $200 or so, vs a model 82 $300 or so, cheap target revolver for 38 special cast loads, the M206 is available with a hammer, I forget if its a different designation or not but the 206 is a snubby comparable to a 85 I guess,

as for the big one, I saw some deals lately for either model, the 627 tracker has the porting etc, can you elaborate why you prefer the 65/66 its slightly cheaper, is it the grips/trigger/larger frame? they look alike in pictures, and honestly I might be overthinking it differences may not be as significant
 

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charter arms? not sure what to make of them, they kind of fill that gap between budget and name brand, price wise at least, I can't tell what is it about them that makes them a tad above taurus, and just shy of smith, maybe it is just manufacturing cost, maybe the aftermarket availability, maybe they are a slightly better quality and not as many reports of failures or bad finish and so on, for the most part all theyr models apear to be a 5 shot snubby with a few exeptions
 

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I have seen these on sale in the last month, I have no idea if any are left.

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AIM is asking $300 for the Model 10.
I would love a couple of these, think is I never seem to find a deal, in my area these fetch a premium, and online who knows what you get, I got that email from Aim today and I was just looking at it.

off topic quick feedback on AIM, I only ordered from them once, I had to send in a copy of my ID, ammo order, bit odd, never had to do that before,couple months later I get a letter, their server got hacked and somebody got my info, among all their other customers, great, dam morons, now why did you need my dam ID for, anyways, they offered a free 1 year credit monitor service, nothing came of it and to the best of my knowledge, I have not had any ID theft issues yet, this was a few years back.

back on topic, here's my issue with smith, I'm clueless, never had one never shot one, the 2 pictured appear to have some skinny grips, probably uncomfortable or they look like it, I take it back, I have one, its over 100 years old the first swing open cylinder, looked it up at some point I forget the details, its in 32, skinny grips too, looks like it would fit my wife or kid better, I'm told these were police issue back in their day, they must have had smaller hands, I consider mine medium but I'm a working man I like a handle large enough to grab a hold of, not pinch it, I have a couple carry pistols, the 738 taurus for example, I do ok with it but that thing is funny just feels weird, not sure what to do with my pinky.

the other thing is I have to read up on older smiths, I cant tell them apart model 10 or 6-4??? whats the difference, production period? any significant design differences? are any models better or more desirable? thats a whole nother can of worms, than there's ruger, colt? I like to make informed purchases, and these things are not exactly cheap even used, but I'm all ears
 

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I have my late father's Model 10 he carried as a beat cop. You can get the "target grips", which are fatter than the issue grips(aka square butt grips). Issue grips are small, but not skinny.
 

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this is exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for, the RIA M200 was on my wish list, its a 4 inch 38 special, $200 or so, vs a model 82 $300 or so, cheap target revolver for 38 special cast loads, the M206 is available with a hammer, I forget if its a different designation or not but the 206 is a snubby comparable to a 85 I guess,

as for the big one, I saw some deals lately for either model, the 627 tracker has the porting etc, can you elaborate why you prefer the 65/66 its slightly cheaper, is it the grips/trigger/larger frame? they look alike in pictures, and honestly I might be overthinking it differences may not be as significant
The RIA 200 was/is on my radar too but I didn't mention it as you were looking for a "snubby". The M206 does come with both wood and rubber grips vs the M200 only having the rubber ones. I've held and worked the action on both the M206 & M200. They don't seem to have the same level of fit & finish as the Taurus line. For the money & intended purpose, the RIAs would probably be OK.
RE: choosing the 66 over the 627, I suppose the bottom line was price but I had read that the "ribber" grips were lame (could easily swap them out tho). I wasn't that enthused about the porting (fluff?) and I did want the slightly larger frame on the 66. Truth be told, the 6 shot version would have been preferable but they are no longer in production. The 65 would have been acceptable but the supplier for my LGS was pricing the 66 for less $$ so I went it and got the adjustable rear sight as a bonus.
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