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I've been having issues with primers flipping going in upside down or sideways and while fixing that problem I managed to double Charge a 45 case with titegroup makes me wonder how many I missed I should probably knock the bullets out and load with something else. I'm going to call Dillon to ask what I've done wrong. About six months back I bought a LED light strip and mounted to where it lights up the the case being charged and it just paid for itself and then some it was less than $20.00 on Amazon and fits most reloaders but nowhere to mount it on the SQUARE DEAL B SO I MADE A BRACKET and put it right where it needed to be. It really helps me as my eyes 're not what they once were I just can't see in dark places. I'm kicking myself because I just read a post where a couple of people said that they would pass the Titegroup for other powders that took up more case room. I'm a believer now from now on I'll pay much more attention to you guys experience. I had my finger prints taken yesterday for my Conceal Carry and I'd like to keep them. The light is a worth while investment I strongly recommended it especially f for us older folks
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I've never been in the "bulky powder" fan club. I use what shoots best. Period. If that's a tiny charge of fast powder in a big case, so be it. If that's a powder that fills the case more than halfway....that's a bonus.

With my Dillon (which is completely different from yours) going too fast at certain moment can jostle the primer. Have you tried slowing down a bit right at the point where the primer bar is picking up the primer?
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That is my nightmare and I am in the "bulky powder" club with that as the main reason. It is also a reason why I chose to purchase a Turret Press for my first one. I've never used a "Powder Cop" die, but understand that they are designed to prevent double charges?
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In my first run with my new Hornady LnL AP press I ended up with a couple no charge 9mm. I had the first one during a shooting match. Fortunately there were no bad effects. After that I ordered the Hornady bullet puller die. Took some 250 rounds apart! I did find one more with no charge in it.

I too have a LED strip light mounted and it is fantastic! I can see the powder in every case including .223 cases. I even ordered a second one that will fit in the hole at the top of the press. I also tried the Hornady powder cop die but found it to be more of a distraction, especially considering I can see inside each case.

The only thing I can offer is take your time, especially at first while learning the progressive press, develop good, repeatable habits, give a good look inside each and every case.
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We all have our likes and dislikes. I have OCD and so the progressive just doesn't work for me personally.
Yes I have owned one in the past.
I check the powder in a case 3 times before the projectile is seated, just my way of doing it.
guess the last time I had a squib though?--when I had my progressive press.
double charges--Naa that don't happen either, mostly cause I am also in the big fluffy powder club.
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muddcatt and others it's not the double charge or no charge that scares me, it's the thought of a light charge or heavy charge from the measure that use to frighten me. Especially with small fast charges like Titegroup that can quickly go bad with a slight over charge. But by becoming much more familiar with the Lee volumetric Disk Measures I have found the chances of a light charge are much greater than the chance of a heavy charge. It's hard to overfill a controlled space. With the design of the Lee powder thru dies and the Lee Auto Measures it's pretty hard to double stroke a cartridge. In any event I believe a double charge or a no charge are pretty evident or should be.

Now the honest truth from me is that even using my Lee Pro1000 I have a hard time loading more than 100 per hour because I am constantly looking into cases or removing cases and checking weights and primers.

The priming system on the little Pro1000 is a bit different than the SDB and have found a slower steady smooth pace eliminates much of the priming issues. I watch youtube videos and see folks pulling the handle like a madman at the nickel slots. Not the way to do it but then they will complain that the press is junk.
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I use the RCBS lockout die on my LNL AP it will stop the press in the case of a no powder or double charge condition. it works great you cant pull the handle any further when it find those conditions. I have the Dillon powder check for my xl650 which I am still getting set up to load on (just bought it)
I got the primer problems fixed Steve at Dillon walked me through it. The shell plate was not indexing just right I cleaned under the shell plate and put a drop of oil on the shoulder of the shoulder bolt that holds the plate on I could tell it was fixed the first time I pulled the handle down it felt like it should I had just installed the 45 shell plate a few days before and it did feel a little different I figured it needed a little break in time. The plate wasn't indexing all the way and would just barely catch the side of the primer and flip it once cleaned and liked it went back to working like it should.
After fixing the primer I put a primer in the primer press then charged the case again and the double charged case moved to the bullet receiving stage where I saw the double charge. I am anything other than fast I measure every couple of loads and when the powder starts getting low and no more powder to fill it I check every load. My lights are positioned where I install the bullet so I have a good look in the case before installing the bullet
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