Kel Tec fans

The Kel Tec factory clip can only be mounted on the right side, as shown. However, see the link for after market clip.....

http://www.clipdraw.com/

These will mount on either side.

Outstanding!

Thanks for that link.

When I had my P32 you could get a factory clip for both the right or left side. I got one when I ordered some accessories, don't recall which side I ordered. Not sure about the other models.

Steelheart

The P11 clip will only work on the right side, left side would interfere with the slide operation. The .32 was different. The after market clips will work on both sides.

Tried out some new ammo in the P3AT today to see how it would work. I picked up a couple boxes of "American Ammo" (Made in Miami) at the last gun show. This stuff was cheap for .380, only $7 bucks a box. 95 gr, FMJ. It worked good, with one ejection failure where the brass got stuck horizontally, (not a stove pipe) and I'd never seen that happen before. The next round didn't fully feed up the ramp, but it was close. Anyway, it cleared easily enough, and ran good from then on. Shot some of my carry ammo, Remington Golden Saber, which feeds beautifully, is very accurate and makes a nice symmetrical hole in the target. The P3AT is a little beast to shoot, though. My trigger finger is throbbing after about 12 rounds from this gun. It is definately a shoot little, and carry a lot gun. Couple of mags each trip to the range just to check function and keep ammo rotated. Love the new PT145, but still nothing beats the P3AT for BUG pocket carry.

Does anyone know of comparison photos of the Taurus 145 or 745 and the PF-9 or p11? I use a neighbors 145 a lot and have held a PF-9 but have never seen them side by side.


Oh, I own a PLR-16 for my only Kel-Tec. Little large for pocket carry but still fun! ;D

Welcome to more Kel-Teckies! I've been eyeing those sub 2000s for a while, hoping to run into a deal on one. I'd really prefer a 9mm that would interchange mags with the P11. I think that would make a handy combo to have in the truck. The P3AT now goes with me as a daily pocket carry, with the P11 as primary, but that may soon be replaced by the Taurus PT145, after break-in. I was considering the PF9, but will wait on that until bugs get worked out. BTW, 9x19, how much for the chrome job on the P11? Looks great!

michaelfm said:

I'll take pictures of both and post here.

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Thanks for the photos, they do look really close. I really like how the Taurus feels in my hand so I think I will get one of these in the near future.

While I do like both, I'm leaning toward the PT145 for a primary carry. There are times when the P11 will still be in primary use, depending on weather and clothing. The best thing to do is get both, then you don't have to make a decision!!

I've ordered 3 twelve-round mags, and am looking hard for a NIB p11 around Chattanooga. There's a gun store supposed to get one in next Monday, and I'm going to jump on it. It seems that p11's are getting hard to find. KT must be putting all their energy into the PF9. Personally, I find the P11 to be a lot more gun, and well-tested for a decade. I traded one once for a Glock, but need to get another one. The P11 is SO easy to carry, and 12+1 capacity is really great.

When Kel Tec announced the PF9, I expected a smaller RohrBaugh size 9mm. The PF9 is, size wise, a P11 single stack. I don't understand why the effort for fewer rounds. I was going to get one, but I'm glad I saved the money and bought the new .45 instead. The p11 and the P3AT will still serve me well.

The reason for fewer rounds is simple. Like the 5 shot revolver, it makes a smaller and easier to carry or hide piece. Convenient gun carrying, whether it is light weight or a smaller package than full size pistols, is all the rage these days. The old axiom, carried a lot, shot little applies.

michaelfm said:

When Kel Tec announced the PF9, I expected a smaller RohrBaugh size 9mm. The PF9 is, size wise, a P11 single stack. I don't understand why the effort for fewer rounds. I was going to get one, but I'm glad I saved the money and bought the new .45 instead. The p11 and the P3AT will still serve me well.

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So, its along the lines of a Sig P239 (the single stack service gun vs the 380's)?

Steelheart

The PF9 is actually longer by .2 inches than the P11, same height, only other difference is the PF9 is .85" thick compared to 1" for the P11. I don't think you gain anything in size for conceal carry because they're roughly about the same. It means carrying less rounds. Like the same reason I chose the PT145 over the PT745. Size was almost the same, but the 145 carried more rounds. I don't think there is much of a difference in weight either, except when you take into consideration the weight of 4 to 6 extra rounds, depending on whether you have the 10 or 12 round mags in the P11. If a great deal ever came along on one, I still might buy it, since I do like the Kel Tec products. But I will wait at least a year to make sure they have the bugs worked out first.

The PF9 is actually longer by .2 inches than the P11, same height, only other difference is the PF9 is .85" thick compared to 1" for the P11. I don't think you gain anything in size for conceal carry because they're roughly about the same.

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I was sayin' this when the PF9 was first rumored. All the guys at KTOG were jumping on me like the PF9 was going to be such a revelation in carry, woopti do, a whole .12" thinner. : For this you give up firepower? I'm pretty happy stickin' with my P11. Some make a big deal about the "better" trigger of the PF9. For them, I guess that matters. I like a long DA myself, especially for safe pocket carry.

One of the main complaints with the P11 was the trigger pull. The PF9 corrects this. They are also lighter when loaded. But then they added that stupid rail.....
Bill