All the other gun rags and forums bashed it to death. Now they have more models and copies than any other gun. Mark Kresser had a lot to do with the Curve coming about. That should speak volumes on what to expect. Outside of the box is selling guns today! And making it here in the USA is a big plus for me. I don't own a .380 as you can see by my forum name, I'm a 45 kind of guy. But I will own this one!