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I haven't seen anything on it here so if this is echoing someone else's sorry. But please don't attend any of these armed protests at state Capitols the FBI has been warned about. I think it's just another way for the left to assault the Second Amendment. I have a bad feeling that there's plants going to be attending hoping to stir up trouble so that guy who claims 81 mil voted for him can have a reason to do what he wants too with some support by those other than his socialist friends. I don't know how we can stop this but not showing up armed will be a start.
 

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Oh, thank goodness... I was terrified that this thread was going to be encouraging folks to attend the protest... Sorry, but I recently vacated another forum about a month ago that was filled with whackadoos who were likely either in attendance during the Capitol raid, or at least cheering it on from the safety of their computer, because their posts had become increasingly disgruntled and laced with vague threats after the election. Against my better judgement I had tried to talk sense to them, discouraging acts of violence, but there's no reasoning with the criminally insane, so it went about as well as you'd expect.

Anyone who hasn't either gone completely off the deep end or otherwise isn't a closet homicidal maniac should stay as far away from these "armed protests" as possible because that's who they attract. Heck, I'd stay away from protests in general, or at the very least keep your eyes open, and be prepared to leave the moment you start seeing nut-jobs dressed up like Vikings amongst the crowd.
 

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I would be worried that the Left, or some radical part of it, could have it secretly set up to open fire on the crowd. Then when the crowd returns fire, rightly or wrongly, the Left can then claim an armed insurrection and make serious further assaults on the 2A in the name of "Public Safety."
 

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I would be worried that the Left, or some radical part of it, could have it secretly set up to open fire on the crowd. Then when the crowd returns fire, rightly or wrongly, the Left can then claim an armed insurrection and make serious further assaults on the 2A in the name of "Public Safety."

Well.....that's what happened in Washington DC the other day.....as soon as Trump announced a rally- they made plans to hijack it, flip it, and used it against him....and they were successful.
 

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At some time, there will be a tipping point, I don't want to be present at such a tipping point. Once the tipping point has been reached, then there is no telling what people will wind up doing, I think most of us ask ourselves that question and hope we don't find out. Looks like things are headed that way. The left is forcing it.
 
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I would be worried that the Left, or some radical part of it, could have it secretly set up to open fire on the crowd. Then when the crowd returns fire, rightly or wrongly, the Left can then claim an armed insurrection and make serious further assaults on the 2A in the name of "Public Safety."
Two words; two horrible words. Civil War.

God forbid it.
 

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I have no desire to attend an armed protest, besides, I have other plans for the 20th and will be attending the nightly looting and riot in Portland.....Wait, I mean I have no desire to attend an armed riot at a State capital, I'm going to be at a peaceful protest in Portland instead :ROFLMAO:
 

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I have no desire to attend an armed protest, besides, I have other plans for the 20th and will be attending the nightly looting and riot in Portland.....Wait, I mean I have no desire to attend an armed riot at a State capital, I'm going to be at a peaceful protest in Portland instead :ROFLMAO:
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Two words; two horrible words. Civil War.

God forbid it.
I wholeheartedly agree with you but I feel that at a minimum certain factions of the left such as ANTIFA and BLM see it as a justifiable means to an end.
The carnage and death is worth it to them if it destroys America and allows them to take power.
Don't you worry, the entire election sham and the biden presidency are designed to move us into a new world of socialism/communism.
If the transition doesn't go smooth expect them to do something to start it. If you doubt it look to the FBI saying they knew there was plans in DC and not saying anything.
Do you think they let Portland and the other situations carry on for no reason? They hoped Trump would overstep his bounds and give cause to remove him or to create a civil war.
Unfortunately it isn't a matter of if, but when and how bloody and long will it be!
It is going to be very tough times ahead with no easy choices.
 

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I wholeheartedly agree with you but I feel that at a minimum certain factions of the left such as ANTIFA and BLM see it as a justifiable means to an end.
The carnage and death is worth it to them if it destroys America and allows them to take power.
Don't you worry, the entire election sham and the biden presidency are designed to move us into a new world of socialism/communism.
If the transition doesn't go smooth expect them to do something to start it. If you doubt it look to the FBI saying they knew there was plans in DC and not saying anything.
Do you think they let Portland and the other situations carry on for no reason? They hoped Trump would overstep his bounds and give cause to remove him or to create a civil war.
Unfortunately it isn't a matter of if, but when and how bloody and long will it be!
It is going to be very tough times ahead with no easy choices.
I don't think we are headed to a civil war. We are headed to more and more crime. Cops are retiring like crazy, they aren't being replaced, budgets are being cut. What good cops are left will be jaded if not already, with criminals being let out and not being charged. Cops will be less likely to engage, knowing they are probably out gunned and having no support from elected leaders that prefer criminals over the police. We have been watching the moral decay of our society and it is continuing to accelerate.
 

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I wholeheartedly agree with you but I feel that at a minimum certain factions of the left such as ANTIFA and BLM see it as a justifiable means to an end.
The carnage and death is worth it to them if it destroys America and allows them to take power.
Don't you worry, the entire election sham and the biden presidency are designed to move us into a new world of socialism/communism.
If the transition doesn't go smooth expect them to do something to start it. If you doubt it look to the FBI saying they knew there was plans in DC and not saying anything.
Do you think they let Portland and the other situations carry on for no reason? They hoped Trump would overstep his bounds and give cause to remove him or to create a civil war.
Unfortunately it isn't a matter of if, but when and how bloody and long will it be!
It is going to be very tough times ahead with no easy choices.
Two things they've apparently failed to consider...........
1) They're largely outnumbered.
2) We've already got 'em surrounded.
 

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Personally, I choose to avoid speculation on such matters. I've had enough careful planning in my life fall apart in an instant because things didn't play out the way that I was certain that they would. The often times erratic behavior of people presents a wild card which simply renders the majority of planning based on logic highly ineffective.

I'm only ashamed of how long it took me to realize such a simple fact of life. After all, if people were predictable, one way or another, then life would be absurdly easy because every little thing would always go according to plan. People are adept at bungling plans, even the simplest, most sure-fire plans can be effectively halted by the most mundane decision of a single person somewhere along the way.

Fortunately, the randomness of life doesn't play favorites, so even malicious people can have their careful plans fail miserably, and the more steps a plan has, the greater the margin for error. So if folks are correct in their assumptions that the majority of the bad things that are going on right now are all orchestrated, part of some elaborate nefarious plot, then the odds that somewhere down the line something unexpected will happen which will seriously wreck their plans.

Trust me, you're far better off learning to take life as it comes and making decisions based on whatever means, resources, or options you have available at present. Take it from a lifelong pessimist who spent his whole life assuming the worst, even if you plan for the worst, life will make a fool of you, and you'll end up regretting all of the things you missed out on because you were so convinced that the world was going to end at any given moment.
You're better off living your life as best as you can every single day, regardless of what happens than you are trying to predict what's going to happen next and what's the best way to deal with it when there's absolutely no guarantee that things will play out that way, thus rendering it a waste of the finite time you have to live.
 

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Personally, I choose to avoid speculation on such matters. I've had enough careful planning in my life fall apart in an instant because things didn't play out the way that I was certain that they would. The often times erratic behavior of people presents a wild card which simply renders the majority of planning based on logic highly ineffective.

I'm only ashamed of how long it took me to realize such a simple fact of life. After all, if people were predictable, one way or another, then life would be absurdly easy because every little thing would always go according to plan. People are adept at bungling plans, even the simplest, most sure-fire plans can be effectively halted by the most mundane decision of a single person somewhere along the way.

Fortunately, the randomness of life doesn't play favorites, so even malicious people can have their careful plans fail miserably, and the more steps a plan has, the greater the margin for error. So if folks are correct in their assumptions that the majority of the bad things that are going on right now are all orchestrated, part of some elaborate nefarious plot, then the odds that somewhere down the line something unexpected will happen which will seriously wreck their plans.

Trust me, you're far better off learning to take life as it comes and making decisions based on whatever means, resources, or options you have available at present. Take it from a lifelong pessimist who spent his whole life assuming the worst, even if you plan for the worst, life will make a fool of you, and you'll end up regretting all of the things you missed out on because you were so convinced that the world was going to end at any given moment.
You're better off living your life as best as you can every single day, regardless of what happens than you are trying to predict what's going to happen next and what's the best way to deal with it when there's absolutely no guarantee that things will play out that way, thus rendering it a waste of the finite time you have to live.
Great wisdom in there Tuco!
 

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If the colonist here in 1775/1776 had followed Tuco’s advice, would there be a USA? A complacent population allowed Mao, Hilter, Stalin, Chavez,Kim, Castro, and a host of others to take control of nations. I’m not suggesting in any way a rebellion, only my observation. Kschilk rightly points out that “we have them outnumbered” and “we have them surrounded”. That may be true but, “we” must not forget that they have far more military force than the civilian population. It isn’t only hand to hand and muskets a 100 yards as it was in 1776 rather, aircraft, ships, missiles, tanks,etc. that “we” must engage. The far left has infiltrated the bowels of our three branches of government to the point that it seems unlikely that they will be expelled. ”We” must also consider the power of the billionaires, both domestic and foreign, who drive the media and influence special interest groups on federal, state and local levels. Our nation has endured many difficult times throughout it’s history. However, it appears that we are entering what may be an unprecedented dark period of change. I pray that we can weather the coming storm.
 

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Better option, like an amicable divorce it's time we have a reorganization of the union.

The country needs to be broken up into five or six separate "countries". Each would better reflect the politics of its citizens. Right now most of the county is being run by the east and west coast liberal strongholds.They're not going to be happy until the entire country gives in and complies. There are better options.

This was the original idea of the states, except for the few limits in the constitution upon them they were to be self governing. Then time passed, and like cancer, the federal government crept in and started meddling more and more it states affairs.

California, one of fifty states, having about 1/8 of the total electoral votes of the country, is just nuts. If it tended to lean more republican there would be more liberal whining about it being unfair.

 
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there will come a day when armed action is needed. we are not there yet, there are many channels left to peacefully fight...
 

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I haven't seen anything on it here so if this is echoing someone else's sorry. But please don't attend any of these armed protests at state Capitols the FBI has been warned about. I think it's just another way for the left to assault the Second Amendment. I have a bad feeling that there's plants going to be attending hoping to stir up trouble so that guy who claims 81 mil voted for him can have a reason to do what he wants too with some support by those other than his socialist friends. I don't know how we can stop this but not showing up armed will be a start.
So finally the FBI is now publicly posting warnings, when they received intel about the Jan. 6th DC protest the day before and only (allegedly) informed local law enforcement? I say "allegedly" because the DC chief who resigned said the FBI never informed him of any threat to break into the capital building, break windows, etc. According to the WaPost, the FBI was warned of when attacks would occur, where they would occur, and some of what would occur, and this was all before Trumps speech, and they did nothing?

I follow another forum that a few posters to the site regularly post about any kind of protest, armed, unarmed whatever, at the statehouse or DC, and there's been nothing about the statehouse even having a protest. The governor however going to have national guard there anyway, which might probably be prudent compared to doing nothing and hoping for the best.
 
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