[buster]

I received a set of the [Wilson Combat Snag-Free, 1911, 3-Dot] 367d sights today. Replaced the rear sight without doing anything to the dovetail. It was not a real tight fit but the set screw seems to keep it in place.
When I get the windage right I'll apply Locktite. I left the Heinie front sight in place as there seems to be no difference in height. The Wilson rear sight does sit a little higher.

This is on a PT 111 Millenium Pro with a TZL..... serial #.

 

[MoReloader]

The wilson front just looks better. Mine is great. I would go ahead and change the front too.

 

[davelikegun]

i ordered mine today, ill post some pics and a report when i get them on

 

[BoneDigger]

I ordered mine two days ago. I checked and the UPS site shows them being delivered today. Very fast shipping on the part of Wilson Combat!

As soon as I get the chance, I'll post an update on how this goes for me.

Todd

 

[BoneDigger]

Came today. As described above, the rear sight is a little loose, but with the screw it tightens it up enough where I don't think it will move. The front sight fit perfectly. I definately think these sights will improve the accuracy for me. I'll let you know next time I hit the range.

BTW, removing the old sights was a pain in the butt.

Todd

 

[Cimarron]

One very easy trick is to peen the overhang of the rear dovetail on the slide. The Wilson sight completely covers the rear of the dovetail, so even a pretty good lick won't show and even a little tightening with the set screw (and some locktite) should prevent the sight from ever moving.

PLEASE POST PICTURES both of the finished product and the install process. I think this is going to become VERY popular!

 

[davelikegun]

got mine today. only took about 10 minutes to install. front sight fits very tight, rear is a little loose, but once you tighten the allen screw, its fine. I havent had a chance to shoot them yet, but they are alot brighter and easier to see.



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[davelikegun]

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[Cimarron]

Thank you guys for the information and "davelikegun" for the pictures. This kind of information will just about cure the "I hate Hienie" folks... those are good looking 3 dot sights.

I am presuming there is no "set screw" on the front sight? Also could you take a full side view of the rear to get an indea if there is any light between the base of the sight in the dovetail, or light between the sight and the slide under the blade area.

 

[davelikegun]

no screw on the front, its a tight fit, i actually had to file mine a little to get it in.

you can see a little light on the rear, I may try a little shim to tighten it up.

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[BoneDigger]

I had the same results as Dave, but my old sights were a pain in the butt to take off. I tried heating them but it did no good. Finally, the heads on the screws stripped and I had to take "drastic" measures. But I finally got them off.

The front sight is tight and fits just about perfectly. As Dave mentioned, there is no screw on the front. The rear sight is a little loose, but with the screw screwed in, it sights fairly stable. I don't think it will move.

Todd

Todd

 

[Cimarron]

I had the same results as Dave, but my old sights were a pain in the butt to take off. I tried heating them but it did no good. Finally, the heads on the screws stripped and I had to take "drastic" measures. But I finally got them off.

Todd

Todd... as you have found... the set screw on the front rests in a groove which can allow windage, but make it impossible to remove intact with the screw in place. I stripped mine early in the exploration, so when I got to the point of replacing them, I used a dremel to cut through the front sight, twisted the part with the screw off and tapped it out! I'm not sure you can replace the front sight and keep the old one for a spare!

 

[Cimarron]

no screw on the front, its a tight fit, i actually had to file mine a little to get it in.

you can see a little light on the rear, I may try a little shim to tighten it up.

I do believe a shim at the back of the dovetail would let the sight rest at the bottom of the dovetail and the sight flush with the slide. Those really are nice looking sights!

 

[davelikegun]

Had a chance to get to the range today and test out the new sights. Major Improvement! Much easier to shoot accurately. Definatley worth the $34

 

[ToroTriggerman]

?? 24/7, PT series, etc.

Sorry, I'm a bit late in checking this thread.

?? Are all the Heine 2-dots on the Taurus pistols the same (size, dot position, dovetail, etc.)? In my case I have a 24/7 PRO.

Does the Heine 2-dot dovetail exactly match any other dovetails, or is it entirely unique? (I seem to have read that it might be a "Novak" dovetail cut).

Will shimming the back Wilson sight preclude semi-permanent modifications like filing, peening, etc.? (Some may want to deinstall the Wilson's later, and reinstall the Heines - not me, I despise the Heines).

The Wilsons look like a good alternative to me, but are there any other easy install 3-dot alternatives (white-dot, tritium, or otherwise)?

thanks, these posts are very helpful

 

[Cimarron]

Sorry, I'm a bit late in checking this thread.

?? Are all the Heine 2-dots on the Taurus pistols the same (size, dot position, dovetail, etc.)? In my case I have a 24/7 PRO.

Does the Heine 2-dot dovetail exactly match any other dovetails, or is it entirely unique? (I seem to have read that it might be a "Novak" dovetail cut).

Toto... It appears from all information that the MilPro, 24/7 Pro and the new PT1911 are all using the same sights. And the front sight seems to be a standard 1911 dovetail, but the rear is slightly larger than normal... that's why the shimming.

Will shimming the back Wilson sight preclude semi-permanent modifications like filing, peening, etc.? (Some may want to deinstall the Wilson's later, and reinstall the Heines - not me, I despise the Heines).

Yes... and if you are careful with material to shim (color, size & thickness) you should be able to shim the sight in pretty tight. Obviously you would want to shim the space between the rear of the sight and the rear of the dovetail, not under the sight. Hopefully you could get the sight to sit flush with the bottom of the dovetail which would pull the sight down against the slide... improving the looks.

The Wilsons look like a good alternative to me, but are there any other easy install 3-dot alternatives (white-dot, tritium, or otherwise)?

Yes... Heinie even has a set of night sights... but Wilson's are $40... Heinie sells theirs for $140! That's a big difference in costs. A few others are out, but prices will run similarly high.

thanks, these posts are very helpful

Everyone here learned what they know by asking dumb questions and trying dumb things.

 

[Drewbacca]

So....what's a shim?

 

[Cimarron]

In engineering, a shim is a thin and often tapered or wedged, piece of material, used to fill small gaps or spaces between objects. Shims are typically used in order to support, adjust for better fit, or provide a level surface. Shims may also be used as spacers to fill gaps between parts subject to wear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shim

 

[Drewbacca]

Thank you sir. I ran this past my step-father (who is a Sig Armoroer) and he nearly crapped his pants at how cheap the combat sights are. He said he would have no problem installing (showing) these for me.

 

[cdheller]

thanks to this post.
my wilson sights came in and were put on yesterday.
I cant add much to how easy it is.
have some magazine issues to work out before some range time .
maybe plinking at the hiene sights