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This is an excellent article on the true danger posed by "assumed" powers when in the hands of an executive.

"If a president of the U.S. has a power to assassinate American citizens, then, logically, this means that he also has punitive powers that stop short of killing, since killing is for most of us just about the worst thing that can be done to us. In particular, if he has the assassination power, then he also has the power to imprison you indefinitely, to torture you, to starve you, to isolate you from the company of others, to take away all your property, to prevent you from working, to remove your vital organs, and to mutilate you. If a president has a power to kill you, then he has the power to do anything he wishes with you and to you."

Link to full article here.

My comments here.
 
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Yup, that's pretty much confirmed by what Will Munny thought:

"..Funny thing, killin' a man. You take away everything he's got and everything he's gonna have..".
 
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68 views and one response, two with mine. America, grow a pair!
 
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He da KING !... or god almighty. (or he'd like to be)
 
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I've already commented on this subject and want to state again I'm not suicidal or going on any vacations so if I am suddenly not around after a day or so you know what happened.
 
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I've already commented on this subject and want to state again I'm not suicidal or going on any vacations so if I am suddenly not around after a day or so you know what happened.
I'll keep this post active either way, I ain't scurred!!!
 

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Truthfully I did not know that the president had the power and authority that Bill Clinton and Barrack Obumma have assumed; also if you will notice that every one that has crossed or informed on either one of these has been killed or disappeared;
 

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This president has used that power already.
 
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This president has used that power already.
I shook my head the day I saw Americans cheering the death of Alauwi (excuse the spelling). I just couldn't get it through people's heads. "aren't you happy he is dead!?". People would say. You are missing the point I said, you are cheering the assassination of an American citizen by our government, one that announced it on public tv. That is what they do, justify their actions based on an extreme case, and now they have the power FOREVER, in any case....
 

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I'm still here! No black helecopters yet.
 

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I shook my head the day I saw Americans cheering the death of Alauwi (excuse the spelling). I just couldn't get it through people's heads. "aren't you happy he is dead!?". People would say. You are missing the point I said, you are cheering the assassination of an American citizen by our government, one that announced it on public tv. That is what they do, justify their actions based on an extreme case, and now they have the power FOREVER, in any case....
I posted a similar thread on another forum and got some interesting comments along the lines of what you mention.

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...I would prefer to see acting immediately through Due Process. Trial in absentia. You know, that pesky Fourth Amendment thing? Then, when Due Process has been satisfied and a conviction has been reached by a jury, put out a nice reward for the first one to bring in his head. Attached or not.

I take issue with killing a man without a trial... Either all Americans have Natural Rights which are codified and protected by the Constitution or none of us do.

When the POTUS assumes power to kill any American, he assumes the power to kill us all. Sorry, read your history. Tyrants tend to use powers left to them by their predecessors. Bush left the Patriot Act and Obama has expanded on that. What will the next man do with the power to kill certain Americans?
 

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the greatest of societies will be brought down by greed (leaders) and power grabbing and ignorance (the people) and our inability too stand up and shout, we can see it now and history speaks of it often ( look into the failed super societies on history channels)
 

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This topic has been very interesting on another site where I posted basically the same information.

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It has been very interesting seeing how the two different groups of people approach the same subject. Thanks for all your great replies!
 

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Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot...
I wish someone would do one for April 19, 1775...

Hey, you guys are smart. Write one and throw your prose up here... ;)
 

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I shook my head the day I saw Americans cheering the death of Alauwi (excuse the spelling). I just couldn't get it through people's heads. "aren't you happy he is dead!?". People would say. You are missing the point I said, you are cheering the assassination of an American citizen by our government, one that announced it on public tv. That is what they do, justify their actions based on an extreme case, and now they have the power FOREVER, in any case....
Scary but true!
 
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