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they weren't soo hard to clean. I have relly been putting a lot of time and effort into getting the 851 scrubbed clean 
Funny, I have never found this to be the case. My worst, dirtiest semi has never taken as long as even an average revolver cleaning.... I think this is one of the ( albeit minor ) reasons I tend to grab a semi when I only have time for a short range session.BoneDigger said:In the time it takes to break down a pistol and clean it, I can have my revolver spotless, assuming I have the right tools and chemicals.
Todd