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Couple of questions:

1.)Do you carry with a round in the chamber? I'm new to carrying (what gave that away eh? ;) ). Definitely feel a little nervous with a round in the chamber.

2.)I want to carry inside the waist band - probably at my 5 o'clock. Right handed holsters seem awkward for this because the grip at this position is further away (closer to my left side). It just feels like an awkward reach. Wouldn't a left handed holster be better as it points the grip closer to my right hand? Or are their concerns about 'sweeping yourself' when drawing from that position? (only reasonable reason I can think of).
 

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Condition 1 - loaded w/safety on. As for holster - several depending on dress and weather. IWB Remora 5ART-FS; 106NA77Z0 DeSantis Sof-Tuck; Kholster Crescent; OWB SP11B Fobus paddle or DeSantis Mini-Slide 086BA80Z0 (for PT24/7, but most 24/7 Pro holsters fit the MilPros as well). All usually 3-4 O'Clock position - 5 is too far back except with the Sof-Tuck w/adj. cant - not too bad - but problems sitting and buckling up seatbelt in that position. Then there are pocket holsters that fit both Slims & MilPro's but they are winter only and not pants pocket - vest, jacket, coat. Also have a Old Faithful MoB (middle of back - 6 O'clock) that is similar to what you are saying (basically a left hand holster for a rightie), which does not require wrist twist to draw (works with both PT24/7 & MilPro's) - and yes you do sweep your butt when drawing - just gotta remember to keep finger clear of trigger until you are clear of sweep.

Any pistol w/o manual safety, I will not carry or bedside with one in chamber, so I don't carry them at all.
 

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Wino pretty much answered it all. I carried IWB 6 oclock with a lefty iwb holster and am a righty (for the reason you mentioned). Didn't find it particularly comfortable. Also is a very slow and unnatural draw and is easily noticed as you tend to change posture and raise your right shoulder. I switched to a slight cross draw appendix carry (11 oclock) IWB and am VERY comfortable wearing and drawing into a Weaver stance.
 

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I have a plan but I can't drop off my paperwork until next Tuesday. So I don't carry yet.

In my situation I have two reasons for the permit.
1 Transportation of my firearm. I hate putting it in the trunk.
2 Getting into work in the AM. I am the first into the building. It's normally dark outside. It's in a bad part of town.

My plan is empty chamber inside the holster on the seat next to me under my lunch bag. Until I see something suspicious as I pull up in my car. Then I will chamber a round. Back into IWB 10:00 with safety off.

Otherwise I feel safe and no real need to carry.
 

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PT145 in a Crossbreed Supertuck at 3:30-4:00 is purdy comfy... I carry with one in the chamber and safety on. And I agree with Wino about the safety stuff.

When I frist started to carry about 2 years ago, I started out with an empty chamber. But that didn't last but maybe a week or two.

As for anyone new to it, I'd suggest an empty chamber also if it makes you feel better. Then after a couple weeks you get familiar with holstering and reholstering your piece you will get a feel for how safe you would feel with one chambered. For example: does your trigger finger automatically come to rest along side the barrel and not in the trigger guard, etc. It's better to start out safe, that is for sure!!
 

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What Wino said but I kinda like the versacarry type holster as their is no bulk.
While I like the concept of the Versacarry, I would like to know how you prevent sweat from getting all over and in your weapon?? I could see it as an OWB, but IWB would drive me nuts with rust/corrosion worry. LOL With the exception of my 106 Sof-Tuck, all my IWB holsters have full sweat shields so no part of pistol ever comes in contact with body sweat whether wearing under/tee shirt, tucked or untucked. Even then, I still wipe it down after a hot day.
 

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Couple of questions:

1.)Do you carry with a round in the chamber? I'm new to carrying (what gave that away eh? ;) ). Definitely feel a little nervous with a round in the chamber.

2.)I want to carry inside the waist band - probably at my 5 o'clock. Right handed holsters seem awkward for this because the grip at this position is further away (closer to my left side). It just feels like an awkward reach. Wouldn't a left handed holster be better as it points the grip closer to my right hand? Or are their concerns about 'sweeping yourself' when drawing from that position? (only reasonable reason I can think of).
You'll likely get as many different opinions as you get responses and all of them are valid. There is no one size fits all answer. In the end you'll have to decide for yourself after considering them all.

I've only had my CHL for a few months and carry my PT145 OWB in a Bianchi #7506 and have found it to be very comfortable and efficient. I am still looking for a IWB holster to try so I can't give you an opinion about that.

I carry right side just forward of my hip. I find this works well as far as easy draw plus the holster and weapon are not in the way when I drive and I can access the gun even with the seatbelt on.

As far as carrying locked and loaded that is strictly up to the individual. I carry full magazine, one in the chamber, and safety on. If you practice (with empty weapon of course) drawing and flipping off the safety as you bring the gun up it will become second nature and you will automatically do the same if you ever have to draw in an actual stressful situation.

Some advocate carrying with an empty chamber and racking the slide if needed. I can't and won't say that tactic is wrong but it's not something I do or recommend. I learned in Vietnam that when the real you-know-what hits the fan there is not time to chamber a round because things happen faster than you can imagine in real life.

Just my 2 1/2 cents. :)
 

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Concealed carry gets easier after the Wally Walk; you realize that most people are oblivious.

IWB just behind the hip on the strong side works best for me, but then I know that some people appendix carry, some small-of-the-back carry, some shoulder holster, some ankle, and some cross-draw. You'll find the style that fits you and you'll wonder why other people carry differently.

Safety-only, safe-action, double action, whatever. The gun that you feel comfortable with will, by default, have the safety system you feel comfortable with, and that is driven by practice and repetition. Intellectually thinking through safety at a keyboard is one thing. Carrying it around on your hip and maintaining it in practical use is another.

While there is a strong safety impulse for carrying with an empty chamber, you ratchet up the responsibility to be aware of your surroundings when you add the need to chamber a round before you can respond. And the act of chambering a round is, in and of itself, a response. I know that in the movies whoever is waving a gun around always has time for a few catchy lines and to rack the slide.

Since I don't have the luxury of writing the script, I have to be ready to ad lib. And I'd rather not risk spending the rest of my life trying to chamber a round when I need it.
 

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Thanks all - I ordered a Foxx IWB right hand holster earlier this morning and now almost wish I had ordered a left hand. Oh well I'll play with it and see.

I tried IWB appendix carry with a cheap Uncle Mike's. I don't understand that option - the weapon digs pretty hard anytime you sit down. I actually have carried front pants pocket and few times with a long untucked shirt and that was pretty comfortable.

Also, if you carry IWB do you typically buy pants 1 size large to do that comfortably? I've noticed obviously my pants/belts are a lot tighter when I do that.
 

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If this helps any I like to carry at my 3:00 with an uncle mikes sz. 12 iwb and when Im riding a cheapo nylon with a metal clip iwb just to gets it a little lower in my waistband also works well with my keltek p11 both inexpensive to try.
 

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I'm left handed. I use a Crossbreed Supertuck at 8 o'clock, made for the 24/7. It fits the MilPro perfect. It fits my 845 also.

I carry round in the chamber no safety, but I use the safety when holstering the gun and putting it in the safe. With the kydex I'm not too worried about anything pulling the trigger. YMMV.
 

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Carry mine OWB in a Uncle Mike's, never any problem as I am fit, 5'8" and 160 pounds, just wear a loose shirt.
As far as round chambered, that is up to you as you get more comfortable, but I wear it doing some crazy crap
at times at work, and never worried about it going off. Just keep your finger away from the trigger.
 

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One in the pipe always, I have converted to 24/7 mag for mine so I have a HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINE . I carry MOB or 6'o clock same thing different wording. Just look at my avatar.
 

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You'll likely get as many different opinions as you get responses and all of them are valid. There is no one size fits all answer. In the end you'll have to decide for yourself after considering them all.

I've only had my CHL for a few months and carry my PT145 OWB in a Bianchi #7506 and have found it to be very comfortable and efficient. I am still looking for a IWB holster to try so I can't give you an opinion about that.

I carry right side just forward of my hip. I find this works well as far as easy draw plus the holster and weapon are not in the way when I drive and I can access the gun even with the seatbelt on.

As far as carrying locked and loaded that is strictly up to the individual. I carry full magazine, one in the chamber, and safety on. If you practice (with empty weapon of course) drawing and flipping off the safety as you bring the gun up it will become second nature and you will automatically do the same if you ever have to draw in an actual stressful situation.

Some advocate carrying with an empty chamber and racking the slide if needed. I can't and won't say that tactic is wrong but it's not something I do or recommend. I learned in Vietnam that when the real you-know-what hits the fan there is not time to chamber a round because things happen faster than you can imagine in real life.

Just my 2 1/2 cents. :)
MarineVet that's a fact for sure and those 2 1/2 cents are right on.
 

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I made my own IWB kydex/leather hybrid, and I modified my PT145 so it's DAO. I carry it with one up the spout and the safety off. With SA/DA guns I'd still carry it with one in the chamber, but with the safety on.
 

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I really like my Remora with full sweat shield for IWB. My 24/7 carries nicely, can only imagine a Millenium will too.
 

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dbeardslee: I am interested in this modification, so your 10+1 with safety off and have a FULL DA pull from the start?

OP: Good choise on the FOxX IWB, good retention and after less than a week wearing it, you will be quite comforatable with it and forget it's there. I, like many, carry 10+1 in the tube with safety on at 4 o'clock. Currently searching for a 24/7 mag with sleeve to keep in the pocket.

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Ordered mine on Amazon and got it in 8 days!
 

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I wear my PT111 G2 with one in the chamber, safety on in a Old Faithful hybrid IWB at 4:30/5 oclock. Its invisible in just a Tshirt, and I dont need to wear a baggy shirt.
Its my EDC and I couldnt ask for more.
4oclock doesnt conceal as well for a thinner build, the handle stocks out more. 5oclock puts it right over the back pocket and keeps it all against the body. Super comfy and a perfect draw without needing to reach far back.
 

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dbeardslee: I am interested in this modification, so your 10+1 with safety off and have a FULL DA pull from the start?
I just carry 9 in the mag with one up the spout. PT145 mags can get pretty tight under a closed slide, and the top round doesn't always feed properly. It works just dandy with 9 in the mag though, so that's the way I carry it.

On the DAO mod I removed the SA sear, sear pin, sear spring, link pivot and link. Then I bent the DA sear on the back of the trigger bar back about 3/32" so that the sear would trip at the same point the SA sear did. If you drop a pencil down the barrel on a milpro, and pull the trigger in SA mode, and repeat the exercise in the DA mode you should see the pencil jump higher in SA mode. Reason is it compresses the striker spring about 3/32" more when the striker hook is on the SA sear than where it releases from the DA sear. By bending the sear back you get the same strike that you would from SA every time. It stacks a little at the end of the pull, but I find that just helps me stage the trigger.

You have to be VERY careful when bending the back of the trigger bar. It's just a VERY small bend that's needed. If you bend it too far, or start bending it back and forth you run the risk of breaking it. I used a real tiny set of channel locks (5") that allowed me to reach way down low to do the bend, and I slowly applied pressure until I just felt the metal give a little. You wind up with a 2mm gap between the front of the DA sear and the frame at it's widest point - no more than that.

You need the bend, but I say again - it's a very small bend, and you need the right tool. I know of at least one other member who tried it and got too aggressive with his bending and broke the trigger bar. So proceed at your own risk.

This is how mine runs DAO -

 
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