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So i went to the shop today.. got 2 Hi-points a c9 (9mm pistol) 119.99 +tax nib and the 995 (9mm carbine) 159.99 +tax nib
I posted more detailed first impressions at: http://hipointfirearmsforums.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=35218
First off, the rumors are just flat wrong.. after you handle one you can see how wrong people are.. how many people out there are bad mouthing the gun without ever holding it and just going with the crowd.
The gun is not a brick that fires bullets.. it actually has good balance and is not that heavy.. infact my beretta/taurus which i have almost boarderline sexual attraction to (dont ask
) is either the same weight or maybe even heaver.
The gun is not top heavy, the gun is rough however.. The design is simple, crude, but effective and ingenious.
A gun that uses it's own firing pin as an ejector.. i know i know.. i had serious worries about this.. it actually works pretty damn good its' quite amazing.. i've never seen anything like that before.
The slide is indeed not steal.. it's made out of ZAMAK #3 (ZAMAC) a Zinc,Aluminum,Magnesium,and Copper alloy..
I know i know it's basicly pot metal.. amazingly i have no reservations of it's use on a gun like this.. on a expensive gun on way but functionally it seems to be fine, had i not already read about it i would not have known, The gun is not top heavy as some claim.
The gun has some very nice sights on it.. bright yellow on the front and bright safety orange on the rear.. they are fully rear adjustable.. the gun had great pointability for me.. better then most of my guns but my 92's still have better pointability but was pretty impressive just the same.
The grip on these things are a bit slick.. however they are also incredibly comfortable for a stock grip.. damn comfortable infact, really fit the hand nice i was immediately surprised when i picked it up.
it's not all milk and honey, this gun is simple.. and does have some issues..
the safety is hard to use, it has no slide release, the mags are flimsy feeling and low capacity single stacks.
they can get caught if you dont watch how they slide in.. this is not a tactical gun i would not want to be in a fire fight and need to reload with this gun, for sd/hd it's probably fine.. how often will you need more then 8 shots? or 10 with the extended mags?
The mag release is actually very good on the gun though it sticks out a fair bit so it's easy to reach.
the trigger is so so on it, i've felt worse but this definitely ranks near the bottom trigger wise, functional and not much else.
Field stripping requires using a punch or a thin screw driver.. not my idea of a good time.
Pros:
Great factory grip
good balance
nice mag release
good point ability and sights
excellent warranty
Cons:
crappy trigger
low capacity
flimsy mags
the 995 carbine is kinda nice, the charging handle can be put on either side which is nice for lefties..
Capacity is only 10 rounds on those.. again single stacks.. the gun is ugly as sin but the ati replacement stock makes it look like a beretta storm.. it has nice sights as well, comes with a sling which is pretty cool.
It lacks a hold up last round feature.. suppose to be redesigning it for that but it really sucks that it does'nt have that already, not much else to say about the carbine.. it looks like it will be a fun gun to dress up.
So any other Hi-point owners out there?
Pictures below:
I posted more detailed first impressions at: http://hipointfirearmsforums.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=35218
First off, the rumors are just flat wrong.. after you handle one you can see how wrong people are.. how many people out there are bad mouthing the gun without ever holding it and just going with the crowd.
The gun is not a brick that fires bullets.. it actually has good balance and is not that heavy.. infact my beretta/taurus which i have almost boarderline sexual attraction to (dont ask
) is either the same weight or maybe even heaver.The gun is not top heavy, the gun is rough however.. The design is simple, crude, but effective and ingenious.
A gun that uses it's own firing pin as an ejector.. i know i know.. i had serious worries about this.. it actually works pretty damn good its' quite amazing.. i've never seen anything like that before.
The slide is indeed not steal.. it's made out of ZAMAK #3 (ZAMAC) a Zinc,Aluminum,Magnesium,and Copper alloy..
I know i know it's basicly pot metal.. amazingly i have no reservations of it's use on a gun like this.. on a expensive gun on way but functionally it seems to be fine, had i not already read about it i would not have known, The gun is not top heavy as some claim.
The gun has some very nice sights on it.. bright yellow on the front and bright safety orange on the rear.. they are fully rear adjustable.. the gun had great pointability for me.. better then most of my guns but my 92's still have better pointability but was pretty impressive just the same.
The grip on these things are a bit slick.. however they are also incredibly comfortable for a stock grip.. damn comfortable infact, really fit the hand nice i was immediately surprised when i picked it up.
it's not all milk and honey, this gun is simple.. and does have some issues..
the safety is hard to use, it has no slide release, the mags are flimsy feeling and low capacity single stacks.
they can get caught if you dont watch how they slide in.. this is not a tactical gun i would not want to be in a fire fight and need to reload with this gun, for sd/hd it's probably fine.. how often will you need more then 8 shots? or 10 with the extended mags?
The mag release is actually very good on the gun though it sticks out a fair bit so it's easy to reach.
the trigger is so so on it, i've felt worse but this definitely ranks near the bottom trigger wise, functional and not much else.
Field stripping requires using a punch or a thin screw driver.. not my idea of a good time.
Pros:
Great factory grip
good balance
nice mag release
good point ability and sights
excellent warranty
Cons:
crappy trigger
low capacity
flimsy mags
the 995 carbine is kinda nice, the charging handle can be put on either side which is nice for lefties..
Capacity is only 10 rounds on those.. again single stacks.. the gun is ugly as sin but the ati replacement stock makes it look like a beretta storm.. it has nice sights as well, comes with a sling which is pretty cool.
It lacks a hold up last round feature.. suppose to be redesigning it for that but it really sucks that it does'nt have that already, not much else to say about the carbine.. it looks like it will be a fun gun to dress up.
So any other Hi-point owners out there?
Pictures below:
