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Ok, it is silly but?

How the heck do these companies measure a gun! Especially when they list them on the web site.

Taurus says my 6.5 inch barreled Judge is 9.5 inches long. OK, the darn thing is almost 13 inches long.

The three inch judge is supposedly 7.5 inches long, with 3.5 inches less barrel than mine. Obviously there is a tremendous description error some where, as the math there, would make the 3 inch gun, be only 4 inches from the forcing cone to the end of the grip. It ain't possible.

I know for sure my barrel from Forcing cone to tip is 6.5", The cylinder is about 2.75 inches long, and that makes 9.25 inches, with no grip, or hammer area. I cannot see a .25 inch grip and hammer. Somebody screwed up with a ruler somewhere!!

Of course I still love the big darn thing, and it shoots like a tack driver out to what I have shot which is about 15 yards.

The other way is my Rossi, 2" 357. The barrel is actually 2.25, but the gun total length is exactly 6.5 inches as advertised.

The reason for this silly post, is if your trying to get someone to make like a holster for the thing, and you give them the advertised dimensions your gonna have a serious holstering problem when you get it, whereas the Rossi would be an accurate fit.

Ok so I rambled on and answered most of my question. (THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO MEASURE A GUN, OR DO NOT GIVE A DARN) But after thinking about this will probably measure out my PT111, and my Heritage 22/22mag single action just to see.
 

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There are lots of typos on Taurus' web site. I wouldn't worry about it.
Yeah we all know that, but it was a retorical question! I just felt like what the H, do these companies think of when they let this stuff go on.

Take the +P or not, area. That could be a safety issue if they are not truly +P rated, because they say they are. But then do not recommend in other area's the use of certain levels of power, or list maximum loads that are not in +P.

"WARNING: Old or reloaded ammunition may be dangerous. We
recommend against using it.

2. The use of reloaded, “remanufactured”, hand-loaded, or other nonstandard
ammunition voids all warranties. Improperly loaded ammunition
voids all warranties. Improperly loaded ammunition can be extremely
dangerous. Severe damage to the firearm and serious injury to the shooter or
to others may result. Always use ammunition that complies with the industry
performance standards established by the Sporting Arms and Ammunition
Manufacturers Institute, Inc., of the United States, (SAAMI) or the equivalent
from other countries.
3. Firearms may be severely damaged and serious injury to the shooter or to
others may result from any condition causing excessive pressure inside the
chamber or barrel during firing. Excessive pressure can be caused by
obstructions in the barrel, propellant powder overloads,

CALIBER WEIGHT VELOCITY
17 HMR....................................................17 GR 2525 FPS
218 BEE ..................................................46 GR 2760 FPS
22LR ........................................................40 GR 1280 FPS
22 WRF MAGNUM ..................................40 GR 1480 FPS
22 HORNET ............................................40 GR 2690 FPS
30 CARBINE ............................................110 GR 1990 FPS
32 S&W LONG ........................................98 GR 789 FPS
32 H&R MAGNUM ..................................96 GR 1100 FPS
38 SPL ....................................................158 GR 755 FPS
357 MAGNUM..........................................158 GR 1450 FPS
41 MAGNUM............................................210 GR 1300 FPS
44 S&W SPL............................................200 GR 900 FPS
44 MAGNUM............................................240 GR 1350 FPS
45 ACP ....................................................225 GR 900 FPS
45 LONG COLT........................................255 GR 900 FPS
454 CASULL ............................................300 GR 1625 FPS
480 RUGER ............................................325 GR 1350 FPS
GR = grains
FPS = Feet per second
“Plus-P’, “PIus-P-Plus” or other ultra or high velocity ammunition generates
pressures significantly in excess of the pressures associated with standard
ammunition. Such pressures may affect the useful life of the firearm or
exceed the margin of safety built into many revolvers and could therefore be
DANGEROUS."

All of these comments and specs were in one manual, from Taurus. What do you believe or not believe.

I have seen pictures of over loaded revolvers that exploded the cylinder but they were handloads by people who pushed the envelope. While I am not scared to fire anything I would buy for my guns, most likely I will not be buying +P rounds. That is how I plan to use my various guns, whether they are pistol, or revolver.
 

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Even the Semi auto manual is ambiguous, and the online one does not even mention +p for them on the web site, but it only shows one mention in the manual.

BULLET
CALIBER WEIGHT VELOCITY
.32 ACP.................................................. 71 GR FMP 905 FPS
.380 ACP............................................... 95 GR FMJ 1000 FPS
9MMPARA. ............................................124 GR FMJ 1225 FPS
.357 SIG ..............................................125 GR FMJ 1350 FPS
.40 S&W ...............................................180 GR FMJ 985 FPS
.45 ACP..................................................225 GR FMJ 900 FPS
GR = grains
FMJ = Full metal jacketed bullet
FPS = Feet per second
“Plus-P’, “PIus-P-Plus” or other ultra or high velocity ammunition generates
pressures significantly in excess of the pressures associated with standard
ammunition. Such pressures may affect the useful life of the firearm or
exceed the margin of safety built into many pistols and could therefore be
DANGEROUS.


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