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I bought my GS2 a few months ago when my son got me re-interested in shooting. I was a revolver guy but couldn't pass up a mint used GS2 for $150 from Cabella's gun library. Love this gun! With so little cost in the gun, I put Lakeline's striker guide and recoil assembly in. The striker guide didn't really improve the trigger, but I like having steel there, now. Also, the recoil assembly is great! Makes the gun a bit heavier where I want it, so that helps with second shots. Also, I love the security of steel. And, I just like how that stainless button looks at the end of the barrel! But, the trigger had a hitch that I think came from the trigger safety. So, after cleaning the gun, dry firing it hundreds of times and putting 500+ rounds through it, I did something I thought would never work to fix the hitch. I put shrink wrap around the trigger to permanently depress the trigger safety blade. And, IT WORKED! Brand new smoothness that cost me 25 cents. 500 rounds later, still doing great. Sorry about the thread sub-title, I just wanted to use the stupid "weird tip" you see in all the web advertising.
 

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I bet that works really well! Good thinking.

Sorry about the thread sub-title, I just wanted to use the stupid "weird tip" you see in all the web advertising.
That's funny, if you ask me. :D
 

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Welcome from Northern Illinois! The idea of placing shrink tube has been posted before, but not in a while. It probably should be noted that the purpose of the trigger blade is to better insure the drop safety of the pistol...that is to prevent the trigger from depressing from momentum if the gun lands on a hard surface with the rear of the slide downward and the barrel pointed towards one's goodies.

I used the heat gun to eliminate the trigger "hitch" on takeup and it is still working very well. The trigger pull is smooth as of the last 200 rounds I put down range a couple of weeks ago.
 

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I wouldn't recommend jerry-rigging your trigger like that. Too many bad things could happen. Here's how I dealt with trigger hitch:

I got my first PT-111 G2 in November 2015, and really liked it! Feels good, looks good, a great manual safety, and has really good capacity for a small carry weapon. The only thing I didn't like about it was that it had a distinctive “click” or “hitch” as I pulled the
trigger back in single-action mode before I reached the break. The "click" that I'm talking about isn't so much heard, as that it is felt in your finger. Back then I thought perhaps this was normal for this gun, thinking that the trigger had to move past some linkage in the area where it would engage the striker in the “double-action/second-strike” mode.


Friends that tried it sometimes thought that it miss-fired when it “clicked” without firing. I had to tell them to keep pulling. You could even feel the click when the gun was broken down, and you pulled the trigger on the grip alone.

I still liked the gun though. So much so that I ordered another one in February 2016. I get the new one, and guess what.....No Click! That's when I realized that there's something wrong with my first PT-111 G2.


After chatting with other members on this forum, I suspect that the problem is with the trigger safety-blade. Apparently the spring tension on the safety-blades of some PT-111's are inconsistent with others, causing the blade to resist retraction, and the safety mechanism to rub against something when it does retract, resulting in a "click".


Sliverbullitsaid: “It's the trigger safety. Turn it upside down, and watch as you pull the trigger. Bet you will see the hook on the safety barely catch the edge of the trigger. I filed the edge of the hook, and it is 90 percent better.” You can search for Silverbullit's “Fix for trigger click or catch” thread on this forum.


Ledbeter36said: Read my post - “Observations on pt111g2 after complete disassembly”. I point outsome things you can do, and filing is a good fix.”


Before I did a full disassembly as Ledbeter36 recommended, I wanted to try something less drastic. So here's what I did. I tied the trigger safety-blade down on the trigger with a small zip-tie, then heated the grip, inside and out with a hair-dryer, and let it set a couple hours. I did this several times, and then let it sit for a week with the zip-tie still on. When I finally took off the zip-tie, the "click" was gone completely. I thought the click might come back after a few weeks, but it's been a couple years now and the trigger still works fine.


In March 2019 I got a new G2C, and I wondered if Taurus had fixed their trigger “click/hitch” problem. Nope, it's still there. I did myzip-tie/hair dryer trick, and now my G2C works great too!


There seems to be an even bigger problem with a small percentage of PT-111's (approx 5%). Some people complain about the trigger being “extremely” hard to pull. Some have even broken off the trigger safety-blade completely. I wonder if the broken safety-blades that some people are experiencing is caused by blades with even stronger spring tension than mine, preventing the safety mechanism from retracting at all. As the shooter pulls harder on the trigger, the blade breaks off. If that happens, all you can do is send it back to the factory for repair.


Try my zip-tie/hair-dryer trick and see if that helps.
If not, you can try Silverbullit's or Ledbeter36's recommendation.
Good Luck!
 

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The trigger bar is there so that unless you actually pull the entire trigger, rather than just a potion of the trigger, the gun will not fire. Period. The vast majority of firearms sold do not have this feature and I do not require it. So, by disabling an odd and intrusive "safety" measure, I now have a new, fabulous trigger. for under 2 minutes of work and for less than a quarter. Done and done!
 

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Your gun, your safety and your choice. I choose to not disable safety features of lethal tools.
 

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Plaintiff's lawyer's dream if you ever get into a self-defense situation.

Johnny Cochrane: "Now Mr. Russty, have you in an way altered, modified, reworked, or customized, the gun you used to shoot my client?"

Mr. Russty: "Ummm...."
 

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As someone else stated Id get a different trigger rather than that. I just got a Keep Tinkering psuedo backstrap sao trigger installed today. I have not been able to shoot it yet but just dry firing alone it's made a world of difference. And if you want to keep the da/sa function he makes those triggers too without the little supposed trigger safety.
 

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I think(just my opinion) that you guy's are way to worried about a simple trigger safety!..................
There are A LOT of firearms that do not have one, and in court I do not believe that anybody in a justified shooting
is going to be screwed because they installed a "working trigger:!..........................
 

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My read it that it is the difference between manufacturer liability and personal liability..and culpability.
 

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I think(just my opinion) that you guy's are way to worried about a simple trigger safety!..................
There are A LOT of firearms that do not have one, and in court I do not believe that anybody in a justified shooting
is going to be screwed because they installed a "working trigger:!..........................
I agree. If a "Keep Tinkering" trigger is installed could not an attorney use the same argument of a modified firearm being used? I think the modification is a non issue.

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Plaintiff's lawyer's dream if you ever get into a self-defense situation.

Johnny Cochrane: "Now Mr. Russty, have you in an way altered, modified, reworked, or customized, the gun you used to shoot my client?"

Mr. Russty: "Ummm...."
So, EVERY modification is off the table for you?! That's really sad. Sorry.
 

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Like, a third of the posts about the G2c are about fixing the trigger! Again, why would you allow a future hypothetical lawyer to have so much control over the enjoyment of your personal firearm?
 

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Modifying the trigger might not be in your favor if you ever shot somebody and it came to a court case. Just my opinion.
Accidental discharge, or defending yourself?
I just don't see it being an issue......................
 

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Shrink tube/wrap why not just buy the trigger for it and be done that way, I have heard a few horror stories of modified guns & Ammo for that matter tis why I use factory hollows for defense my ball reloads target and plinking last I need is a sloppy, punked DA trying make himself on me
 

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Shrink tube/wrap why not just buy the trigger for it and be done that way, I have heard a few horror stories of modified guns & Ammo for that matter tis why I use factory hollows for defense my ball reloads target and plinking last I need is a sloppy, punked DA trying make himself on me
Because... Taurus sure isn't gonna sell him a factory trigger and if he installs anything but a Taurus factory trigger he is by definition modifying the pistol. The only other solution he has is to send it back to Taurus to correct.

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It's not an issue of modifying a gun. Feel free to modify any gun in any way you want. I will just not modify my CARRY gun that potentially could be used in a self-defense situation. I have a few guns that I have modified, I just don't carry them for self-defense. And hey, I'm just a Chef. If I thought about a lawyer using the fact that you modified a gun used to kill his client against you, what other points might that same lawyer come up with to put you behind bars? i.e. "So you're some kind of self-appointed vigilante with a blood lust need to have a modified gun to brutally slaughter your enemies!!??" You get the idea. And trust me, that's just the start for Plaintiff's lawyer.

Look, if your perceived right and need to modify your carry gun supersedes your desire to stay out of jail (or at minimum have your life financially ruined) then have at it. It's not an issue of 'being sad'. Its a choice to be made. Mine choice is to play it safe with a carry gun. Your choice may differ. But are you willing to make that choice given the very real possibility that a jury might not see it your way? Sorry, not me. I got too much to lose and I really like my life and my freedom. :)
 
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