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Having owned both and having put 1000 rds thru my G3C and 3800 thru my G3 here are my conclusions ( based on a small sample!)

- The G3C obviously is the result of along line of product improved compact pistols from Taurus and it shows.
Great reliability, no issues with magazines, no issues with feeding or ejecting, no matter what the Ammo even some of my worst Ammo seems to work fine.
Class leading ergonomics and shooting performance for a compact pistol.

- The G3 is Taurus full size, yet along the lines of the millennium pro compact pistols. I love the accuracy and speed that the superior ergonomics of of a full size handgun anointed with taurus excellent ergonomics offers.
Yet in my service it has not matched the high reliability of the G3C.

If ammo is in any way marginal we get feeding errors and the magazines had weak springs that would completely fail to push the ammo up some some types.
I am not 100% if this was the magazines that came with the gun or the mecgar magazines I bought speratly from a vendor but my gut tells me it was a mix of both (however have no proof of this.

So the form and function of the G3 is superior simply due to being a fullsize version of the G3C the reliability is not.
These guns can be reliable but you must do two things, - replace mag springs ( or be lucky enough to catch a "good batch" ) and shoot ammo that you identified a working well with your gun.

Now there appear to be many users with no issues at all with their G3s.
This may be explained in two ways;
  • they had the right ammo from the get-go
  • they do not shoot enough to wear out magazine springs

Incidentally here is a comparison of both feed ramps.
I do not know why there was a need to make both different but i could speculate that since the G3C came after the G3 the enlarged feed ramp may be a product improvement step by Taurus for the G3C.

G3 on left G3C on right.
I think it is clear which gun might feed more reliably with a greater variety of ammo...

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I must be lucky and didn't even know it. I have bought two G3's this month with the second one being today. And both of mine are like the ramps on the right. Don't know if the ones of color would have a difference, but one is Black-Grey, and the other is Black-Tan. The Black-Grey one I bought today jammed on the 3rd round twice, the fourth round once and the second round 3 times in a row. Seems it did not like the RNSP. It seems to like HP's.
 

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I must be lucky and didn't even know it. I have bought two G3's this month with the second one being today. And both of mine are like the ramps on the right. Don't know if the ones of color would have a difference, but one is Black-Grey, and the other is Black-Tan. The Black-Grey one I bought today jammed on the 3rd round twice, the fourth round once and the second round 3 times in a row. Seems it did not like the RNSP. It seems to like HP's.

That's great info some of us havebeen looking for. :)

I been looking for evidence that Taurus might product improve the ramps on the G3:

So it looks like we finally have a answer to this thread that is positive after many folks reported only the style on the left for the G3.
Could you post the production dates of your G3s for us?
 

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FWIW; I too have read of G3 failures but bough one anyway. My experience; I field stripped and thoroughly cleaned it. Since I had it apart I polished the fed ramp (removed no metal, just polished). I had the two magazine that came with the pistol and two 17 round mags I purchased (same Mec-gar as supplied) I disassembled and cleaned them well looking for burrs. etc. Loaded all 4 magazines with Federal 115 gr FMJs and dropped them in my range bag. Two weeks later I finally got to the range. My G3 fed/fired/ejected all four magazine of the Federal ammo flawlessly. I loaded some Fiocchi 115 FMJ, 34 rds, ran cleanly, Same with some Sig Sauer 124 V Crown JHP. Tried some handloads in various magazines; 124 RMR JHP, Winchester 124 TC, 124 gr Berrys plated HP, and several XTP both 115 and 124 gr. (The Winchester Ranger 147 gr ammo would "plunk" so I left it home). The last ammo I tried some Tula ammo, steel cased 124 FMJ. 40 or so rounds. All rounds fed, fired, ejected 100% in all magazines. Was I just lucky and get a "Good One" or are the reported feeding and ammo sensitivity just internet wisdom?
 
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Was I just lucky and get a "Good One" or are the reported feeding and ammo sensitivity just internet wisdom?
I am happy yours is working so well from the get-go.
However I know I am not the only one that had issues.
still of course the internet tends to magnify those.

How many people go online to post. "my pistol has no problems". :D
 

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I have a Taurus® G3C 9mm with over 1,700 rounds through it with zero malfunctions. I shot 115, 124, and 147gr; both FMJ and JHP and all fired and ejected fine. Brands included BLAZER®, Federal®, Remington®, Sierra®, and Winchester®.

I am very satisfied with my G3C; it"s like a Timex® watch in that "It takes a licking and keeps on ticking."
 
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Yes, the feed ramp on the left, your G3, is exactly like mine was.

Until I extensively, heavily polished up the feed ramp, my G3 TORO had repeatable failures with ball ammo. Two different types were tested. The areas where the G3 feed ramp funnel inward and upward, as seen on your photo, met the chamber and at that specific point the chamfering wasn't there on the circumference of the chamber mouth. This caused the cases to catch badly, there.

I guess, for now, we're back toTaurus' "If you get a good one" days, and that's kind of a bummer. I also had weak mag springs. MecGar wanted nothing to do with it, and Taurus had already gotten the gun back in Bainbridge once. No one was going to replace the two mags that came with it, and the two spares I purchased. Expensive lesson.
 
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Having owned both and having put 1000 rds thru my G3C and 3800 thru my G3 here are my conclusions ( based on a small sample!)

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G3 on left G3C on right.
I think it is clear which gun might feed more reliably with a greater variety of ammo...

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The barrel on the right is OBVIOUSLY designed to just feed the bullets that are on the right side of the staggered magazine!
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I see some crazy sales of g3s right now. tempted to buy another.
but since they are on internet I do not know if they have the product improved feedramp or not.
Another member of this board in another thread stated he recently picked up a G3 and it had the feedramps that I see on my G3C.
 

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O P : The barrel shown on the right seems to have a much greater chamfer on the chamber mouth than the one on the left ( in addition to different geometry on the feed-ramp).

Perhaps a gentle polish and rounding of the chamfer would be in order for the one on the left? That's a touch I give all my semioautos, and it seems to limit, if not eliminate entirely, any failure to feed for case hang-up reasons. The mouths of some factory-new cases seem to have a pronounced square edge, and are prone to stoppages at that point if they do not go perfectly up the feed ramp.
 

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O P : The barrel shown on the right seems to have a much greater chamfer on the chamber mouth than the one on the left ( in addition to different geometry on the feed-ramp).

Perhaps a gentle polish and rounding of the chamfer would be in order for the one on the left? That's a touch I give all my semioautos, and it seems to limit, if not eliminate entirely, any failure to feed for case hang-up reasons. The mouths of some factory-new cases seem to have a pronounced square edge, and are prone to stoppages at that point if they do not go perfectly up the feed ramp.
What you describe, is exactly what I did to my G3 to get it at least running. You hit the nail on the head.
 
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I also noticed the much narrower chamfer on the G3 compared to the G3C. My G3 is like that and has the FTF problems. I've always suspected that was part of the problem. It's back in Bainbridge for the second time. I sure hope that they fix it this time. Maybe a new barrel if I'm lucky. If Taurus does have an updated barrel I wish they would admit to it and make it available for replacements.
 

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I also noticed the much narrower chamfer on the G3 compared to the G3C. My G3 is like that and has the FTF problems. I've always suspected that was part of the problem. It's back in Bainbridge for the second time. I sure hope that they fix it this time. Maybe a new barrel if I'm lucky. If Taurus does have an updated barrel I wish they would admit to it and make it available for replacements.
Let us know how this goes. I hope they do fix it. Email then regarding the barrel feed ramp and that it's a known, growing issue on internet sites. Send the pics
 
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I also noticed the much narrower chamfer on the G3 compared to the G3C. My G3 is like that and has the FTF problems. I've always suspected that was part of the problem. It's back in Bainbridge for the second time. I sure hope that they fix it this time. Maybe a new barrel if I'm lucky. If Taurus does have an updated barrel I wish they would admit to it and make it available for replacements.
Let us know how this goes. I hope they do fix it. Email then regarding the barrel feed ramp and that it's a known, growing issue on internet sites. Send the pics

Update Was told today that the repair is completed already! First the good. They repaired it in only one day after receiving it. WOW 5 stars to Taurus⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ They ran 30 rounds of 147 Gold Dot and supposedly no failures. Big improvement. Now for the not so good. The only repair was to adjust the trigger bar. No mention about the barrel or ramp. I don't understand what that has to do with FTFs. Can one of you experienced members explain that to me?

I also asked tech support if the G3 barrel had been updated. She checked with someone and said no. :(

I will post a range report once I get it back and am able to get there.
 

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Update Was told today that the repair is completed already! First the good. They repaired it in only one day after receiving it. WOW 5 stars to Taurus⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ They ran 30 rounds of 147 Gold Dot and supposedly no failures. Big improvement. Now for the not so good. The only repair was to adjust the trigger bar. No mention about the barrel or ramp. I don't understand what that has to do with FTFs. Can one of you experienced members explain that to me?

I also asked tech support if the G3 barrel had been updated. She checked with someone and said no. :(

I will post a range report once I get it back and am able to get there.
That's exactly what they stated they did to my G3. I asked around here and another forum as to how the trigger bar could affect function. I didn't trust that repair and went to work myself. I then found the major culprit of the FTF with FMJ ammo. Feed ramp chamber mouth chamfer was not finished or refined and the case would catch there. Should I have test fired it after getting it back from Taurus? Maybe. I had already sunk 500 rounds into it, and I didn't want to go for yet another range trip and chance it. I did my work on the barrel, and it ran over 200 rounds of FMJ just fine. Also ran 50 JHPs with one nosedive and a tap on the mag got it right into battery. However, even with it finally running better, I was done. It's gone. I should have let it go a lot earlier. They offered to take it at 250 round count, but I suggested running another couple hundred. They even offered to pay shipping that first offer, too. Should have just let them have it.

I hope the adjustment to trigger bar actually works. Let us know if you're gonna take it out and run it after their repair.
 
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That's exactly what they stated they did to my G3. I asked around here and another forum as to how the trigger bar could affect function. I didn't trust that repair and went to work myself. I then found the major culprit of the FTF with FMJ ammo. Feed ramp chamber mouth chamfer was not finished or refined and the case would catch there. Should I have test fired it after getting it back from Taurus? Maybe. I had already sunk 500 rounds into it, and I didn't want to go for yet another range trip and chance it. I did my work on the barrel, and it ran over 200 rounds of FMJ just fine. Also ran 50 JHPs with one nosedive and a tap on the mag got it right into battery. However, even with it finally running better, I was done. It's gone. I should have let it go a lot earlier. They offered to take it at 250 round count, but I suggested running another couple hundred. They even offered to pay shipping that first offer, too. Should have just let them have it.

I hope the adjustment to trigger bar actually works. Let us know if you're gonna take it out and run it after their repair.
Did you ever get any explanation as to how the trigger bar might cause jams? The only thing close that I've found so far is a Youtube explaining a known problem with G3s misaligned trigger bar causing slides to rub and stick. They did not mention FTF being a result of this though.
 

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Did you ever get any explanation as to how the trigger bar might cause jams? The only thing close that I've found so far is a Youtube explaining a known problem with G3s misaligned trigger bar causing slides to rub and stick. They did not mention FTF being a result of this though.
No, never got any definitive answers. Take yours out when you get it back, and see if she's working. 🤷
 
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