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G2 & russian ammo

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Yesterday I went to the range with my daughter. She brought her PPQ & I brought a Sig & my 9mm G2. I started out with brass case 115g HP, but I had some russian Silver Bear 115g RN I wanted to see if the G2 would cycle. The Taurus likes it just fine, no problems with the cases or those hard primers. The strange thing was the difference in the targets.....





The top pic shows the russian ammo....about half the holes are elongated & torn. The lower pic is the brass case HP showing the typical clean round punch-outs. I don't know enough about ballistics to understand what causes the difference.

All shooting was from 7yds.
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I'm certainly no ballistics expert but from what I've read the elongated holes may be caused by bullets for whatever reason lacking enough spin to stabilize them in flight. I'd also think if the bullet's not absolutely symmetrical about the longitudinal axis it would develop a wobble and/or curve in flight.
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What you're seeing is bullet "tumble" or "keyholing". MartinB26 has a good point. Google those terms because the reason this occurs can be varied. It could've been an "off" day at the Russian plant.
If your paper target has space between it and it's backing, and not flat against it, it will do that also.
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The type of paper and backing it's on also can make a difference. I have a bunch of nice grid targets I printer on a laser printer. They look like the "odd" one shown above when shot no matter what bullet hits them from various guns. I found that taking a piece of simple note book paper on the back of them stops the odd tearing or greatly improved it.

Best way to find out and cheapest? Change your target type. You may have just had a thinner target or one that had some other anomaly going on.

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Both of those pics were cropped from the same target sheet. One was upper left, the other center, the backing cardboard only backs the center target on that particular layout.
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Both of those pics were cropped from the same target sheet. One was upper left, the other center, the backing cardboard only backs the center target on that particular layout.
Ok now that makes your ammo concern a true worry.

:( I was hoping it was some silly paper issue like I ran into.
Jeff were the cleaner holes from the target with cardboard backing?

PS - good shooting by the way.
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