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Has anyone else tried the Lucas oil? Lots of people say i's nothing more than ATF, but I must say, it does agood job at doing what it does.
 

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i haven't compared it to the ATF, but i bought me some at NAPA a few months back and really like it. I took it to FtKnox during my units range weekend and my friends liked it on both the m16's and m9's. i gotta buy me another bottle.
 

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ATF is generally a very high detergent oil and works very well on Firearms in most all temperatures. I've read that troops in Iraq favor it quite well for use in the M16/M4.

Currently, I've been using Straight 30w in slide rails and other bearing surfaces. It tends to flow reasonbly well in temperate climates. I also like Mobil 1 10w30 for use in colder climates and in my Match AR15A2's Bolt and Bolt Carrier.
 

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Where are you getting Lucas Oil? I've seen some Lucas products at one of the auto parts stores, but they were a clear liquid vs the color of ATF.
 

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The clear is for air tools.

I work at a NAPA and a local chain ABC has it as well. Go talk to a NAPA, I know they can get it if you have a decent one around you.
 

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Ok, perhaps a dumb question, but when you folks use Mobile oil does it leach out into your hands in use?
 

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I just went to look at a bottle of my Lucas. The Napa part number would be LUC 10006.

I did get sprayed the last time I went out shooting. I may have gotten the oil a littl eheavy too though.
 

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I just believe you need a good gun grease on these autos. I use the shooters choice and it will work in all temps. You will see allot smoother action and allot less wear.
 

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ATF is generally a very high detergent oil and works very well on Firearms in most all temperatures. I've read that troops in Iraq favor it quite well for use in the M16/M4.
I have never heard of using ATF on a gun before until this thread, but I thought about it and automatic transmissions undergoe a huge amount of stress and wear for years protected mainly by that stuff so... I gave it a try on my 1911 just now... I like it! A little goes a very long way and wipes off nice and clean. Everything went together nice and smooth. The real test will be on the range and see if this stuff gunks up. If not... I will have found my lube of choice especially for the price! I might have to try Mobil 1, too.
 

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ATF can definantly stand the heat.

ATF is pretty much a friction modified hydraulic fluid. It's dyed red to signify ATF.
 

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I also like Mobil 1 10w30 for use ............
I love the Mobile-1 Fully Synthetic 10W30..........always have 10 quarts on the shelf for my auto so its always convient to just pop one and get some out.
 

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I made one gallon of it 10 years ago and still use it for gun cleaning and lubing, and also on all the places where you would use WD-40. It does wonders.

Here is my formula (different from Ed's):

-1 part synthetic ATF
-1 part Acetone
-1 part Diesel fuel or kerosene or jet a
-1 part Aliphatic Mineral Spirits
-1 part baby oil
 

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WD40 can be used as an external Metal Preservative, as it evaporates and leaves a parafin wax coating that will protect against rust. However, it should NEVER be used as a Gun Lubricant as that parafin mixes with powder residue to form gunk and WILL clog up the action of your gun.

Ed's Red Formula is very good as a bore solvent and general solvent. Very good for removing carbon, but only so so on lead and copper. Trouble is, as a Solvent it should only be considered a light oil. Protection of bearing surfaces will not be as well done. PB Blaster Penetrating Oil is sort of a Commercial version of Ed's Red.

Baby Oil is basicly thinned Mineral Oil, which is very slippery stuff. Hoppes Gun Oil is nothing more than regular Mineral Oil that you can buy rather cheaply in most any Department Store. Relatively Non-Toxic, too!

I like the straight 30w Motor Oil and Mobil 1 Full Synthetic 10w30 for a number of reasons. Have used Straight 30w on a number of commercial/industrial machines and on my Dillon 650 Reloading Press. (Dillon Specifies it's use!) Also, a few top IPSC shooters used it as their lube of choice to keep their high dollar race guns, running! One used it to keep his pistol going some 200,000 to 300,000 rounds. (There were the expected replacement of minor parts and two barrels.) Mobil 1 Full Synthetic or most any Full Synthetic Motor Oil works very well in harsh climatic conditions and I use it in my AR15A2's Bolt Carrier, as I consider that area of the gun to be a harsh environment, as the gas comes directly in there.

There are a lot of choices and options when it comes to lubing your gun, and many will work very well!
 

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nicnitro, I would be afraid to try that on the new guns, esp. with the poly frames and rubber or ribber grips.
 

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FOR YEARS, I USED REM OIL, THIS YEAR I BOUGHT SOME LUCAS GUN OIL. AND I LIKE IT WAY MORE. I THINK IT DOES A GREAT JOB OF LUBRICATING. I NEVER THOUGHT OF MOBIL 1. I LOVE THAT STUFF TOO, IN AUTO / MOTORCYCLE APPLICATIONS. I WILL TRY THAT AS WELL. SEEMS TO ME THAT I SAW SOME SYNTHETIC ATF, MAYBE THAT WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE. I USE STP FOR LONG TERM GUN STORAGE, THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH IT IS YOU HAVE TO TOTALLY DISMANTLE THE GUN TO CLEAN IT BEFORE USE. I ALSO USE STP ON MY RELOADING PRESS, MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!
 

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I wonder... if we are using motor oil does wisdom from the car world carry over? Mobil1 is no longer a "true" synthetic. A product from Castrol has caught many enthusiasts' attentions, it is the German made Castrol 0w30 synthetic (it must say made in Germany on the back), available almost exclusively at Autozone. It is in many ways a superior product in car engines, so what does that say about it in this application?
 

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An engine running for 1 hour undergoes more load than a semi-auto that has fired 100,000 rounds if we take firing each round as one cycle and assume that the engine is running at a very low rpm of say 2000. So, a synthetic oil is probably overkill but wouldn't hurt.
 
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