I have read all the holster post here and looked a bunch of holster web sites and have narrowed it down to these two for my m-85 UL. both are in my price range and will buy from Gunners Alley. No shops here in town have any for me to put hands on so I must go by the pictures and good advice from here. I`m sure ether one is very nice but wanted to put this up to a vote as to what you guys liked best if you had to chose only one. Thanks.