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My daughter and her boyfriend had just finished a birthday dinner for his mother, Afterward, the family was walking around Disney Springs, when a security guard with his dog walked by them in the opposite direction. The dog made a 180 and alerted on the boyfriend. The security guard asked him if he was carrying, he responded yes, security and deputies came out of the woodwork, a boatload of them, according to my daughter.

My daughter works Orange County Fire Rescue and boyfriend is law enforcement. The boyfriend shows them his I.D. and CWL to no avail. The deputies escort them to their car and tell them not to come back carrying. My daughter said the deputies seemed rather embarrassed over it all.

Disney is private property and they aren't playing. The nut job who shot up the Pulse nightclub, had Disney Springs as his plan "A" and for whatever reason, he went to plan "B"

BTW, his entire family left them high and dry. I guess they were embarrassed.
 

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Wow even LEO are not allowed to carry there unless on duty sheriff office! Hey thanks for the support family! Geez!
 

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So he should have said "No".

You are under no duty to answer to non-Law Enforcement.
 

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Wow even LEO are not allowed to carry there unless on duty sheriff office! Hey thanks for the support family! Geez!

No offense to those who are LEO's, but GOOD....if "I" as a licensed law abiding citizen can't carry there, neither should "U' be able to (when off duty) just because you wear a badge for a living and this should be the case Everywhere, not just in RickyRats Hood.
 

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Never understood how carrying a badge made you a better shot. I bet most of us are at the range more
than MOST law enforcement personnel.

All the Best,
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Depending on the agency, carrying your service weapon while off duty may be mandated. Also, just because someone is in plain clothes, that could also indicate they are under cover and actively working a case. To have a service dog alert on them and make a scene could very well have blown their cover.
 

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Disney's policy is their policy. It's private property. It doesn't matter if it's posted or not -- read the conditions on the tickets.

If they catch someone carrying with a CWP, the offender is escorted out and banned from the property (for life). Yeah, yeah. Plenty of 'so what's' inbound. Fine -- defiance noted. For locals, no big deal. If you're from out of state, it's harder to explain to the kids why they can't go back after the mean people walked daddy out of the park on the first day of a week vacation. If someone is caught carrying without a valid permit, law enforcement gets involved.

If they did not inform your daughter and her boyfriend that they were banned, but only not to come back carrying, that was a courtesy to them as law enforcement/first responders. Only LEO's with jurisdiction can carry on the property.

If security directly asks someone in the park about carrying, it's not a random thing -- they are already pretty sure they know the answer, by dog, metal detector (there are more around than just the ones at the gate), whatever.

Lie about it if you choose, but if you are caught in the lie, you have committed trespass after warning and armed trespass. That's when things can get unpleasant, because they WILL get law enforcement involved:

- it's a felony. You can expect them to prosecute.

- In Florida, trespass after warning brings with it forfeiture of everything used in the commission of the crime. Although I've never heard of it being done in the case of Disney, I have heard of hunters loosing their trucks, because that's how they arrived at the site of the trespass.

Sure, there ARE people who carry in Disney anyway, and have done so repeatedly over a number of years, and have never been caught. I haven't lost anything there, so I don't have the urge to go back and look for it.
 

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I think I'll just stay on D Farm and occasionally wonder up to South Dakota and New Hampshire...:)
 

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How well posted are any signs at Disney World informing concealed carriers of this? Are they pretty obvious when there's a large crowd of people entering?
 

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No offense to those who are LEO's, but GOOD....if "I" as a licensed law abiding citizen can't carry there, neither should "U' be able to (when off duty) just because you wear a badge for a living and this should be the case Everywhere, not just in RickyRats Hood.
Problem with that is that off duty LEOs are still charged with enforcing the law when off duty. This is why they're forced by their departments to be armed off duty, at least the departments I know about here in Texas.

I won't enter "gun free zones" and that's just the way it is. Never been to Disney theme parks and I'm a little old for it, now.
 

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How well posted are any signs at Disney World informing concealed carriers of this? Are they pretty obvious when there's a large crowd of people entering?
It's been some time since I've been there, but I don't recall seeing signs. In fact, I can't think of anyone I know who's been there in the past several years.

Even so, in Florida signs are more like suggestions -- they don't have force of law and there is no legal penalty for disregarding them. If the property owner catches you they can ask you to leave, but that's it.

As with so many other things in life, it's what you do AFTER you've been directly notified that can bring on the hammer.
 

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Thankfully, we still have private property rights.

It is interesting how a board that appears to be full of so many Second Amendment supporters doesn't seem to appreciate a property owner enforcing his rights on his own property.

I was there in November and don't remember seeing any signs, but I did see lots of official puppies.
 

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Is the dog trained to sniff out Hoppes #9 and CLP?
 

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Thankfully, we still have private property rights.

It is interesting how a board that appears to be full of so many Second Amendment supporters doesn't seem to appreciate a property owner enforcing his rights on his own property.

I was there in November and don't remember seeing any signs, but I did see lots of official puppies.
They have property rights, but I have the right to not go there and not spend a dime of my money with them.
 

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I wonder if LEOs have a duty to enforce the law in Florida while off duty? I think if I had to go in there unarmed, they would have to live without my help if they had an incident.
 
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