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Clean before first fire?

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So, I am really happy with my PT111!
I've bought several accessories, and have my LTC class in less than a week.

I've been obsessively breaking my gun down to see how it works and noticed a bunch of grim in the barrell and just over all filth.
I thought this was odd, being it was NIB, but I saw a video suggesting to clean new guns before initial shooting- I have to say, I thought this was silly, until I actually cleaned mine. There was a bunch of polymer particulates.

Did anyone else clean their gun before initial firing?

I was told to wait until at least 200 rounds have been cleared - but as I said - it was filthy from the jump

sorry mod- I reviewed the language, and will take note going forward. Thank You,
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CLEAN ANY GUN BEFORE SHOOTING!!!!!!!
Have fun and tell us how you did!;)
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Yup, deep clean & lube!!
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Yup, deep clean & lube!!
Your talking about the Gun right?????
Awesome!

Thank you guys so much! Every Time I tell someone I got a Taurus, they cringe- and it eats me up- as I did significant research before getting the PT111. I am really pleased so far. I was shocked at the debri that was in the lower and barrel. Thanks guys, yall made me feel alot better about it. I should have taken some before and after pics.
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I clean all my guns before i shoot them for the first time.
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Awesome!

Thank you guys so much! Every Time I tell someone I got a Taurus, they cringe- and it eats me up- ................
Let'em cringe, then show'em your target. :)
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New guns need to be cleaned before firing.

Many, especially imported guns like those from Taurus, are packed with a preservative or cosmoline like substance that is meant to protect them from corrosion as they sit for months in containers waiting for shipment or to clear customs.

While it may do a good job of protecting and preserving, some of that stuff is seriously no bueno when it comes to being a lube for a gun being fired. Depending on what was used, how much and where it settled, you can make yourself a mess by firing the gun with it still present and basically baking it onto your gun. Even the stuff that can't be cooked into the illegitimate love child of pine tar and rock candy is a dust and dirt magnet and that's a bad thing of itself.

Deep clean, degrease the snot out of it and relube with a real lubricant before dropping the hammer.



Now, how often you clean is a different argument. A LOT of us clean after it gets shot, no matter how much it is shot.

Others,... not so much.

Personally, I have 3 different levels of 'cleaning' and it depends on how dirty it is when I get done shooting.

The lowest is basically a wipe down of the action, breech face and bore. No real cleaning, no solvents, just a 'light dusting' sort of thing. That's reserved for smokeless guns that just get a couple rounds through them.

The next one is 'normal' cleaning. It gets done after 'normal use' . Field stripping, scrub down action, barrel and breech with solvent, scrubbing off any powder residue on the rest of the gun and touch up the lube as necessary.

The last one is 'detail' cleaning. Detail stripping ( down to component parts, stocks, grips, ... are removed) everything gets soaked, scrubbed, degreased and relubed. Basically, how you clean a BP gun- just without the hot, soapy water.
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so helpful, thank you!!!
Yes, clean it. Clean it again. And just when you think you have it clean...clean it again! The packing gunk Taurus uses can be very detrimental to good operation of the gun. Also take the mags apart and clean the inside of them.
Have fun with your new Taurus.

PS: don't lube the inside of the mags after cleaning.
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I always clean a new gun before firing. Away back in the stone age when I got my first gun, my wife's uncle told me to clean it before using it. I thought that he was full of it. He took me out to his shop, took the gun from me and stripped it down and cleaned it for me. The muck that was on that gun was frightening, not just cosmoline but metal particles, lots of metal particles. I've been a convert ever since. In fact that turned me into a clean and lube fanatic. No matter how many rounds I run through a gun, it gets cleaned and lubed. Is it always necessary? Probably not but what the heck, I enjoy doing it.
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I tend to buy used guns
I striped and deep cleaned both of my Tauri when I got them...but I dont think either had more than 50-100 rounds down the pipe
the two of them took another 100 rounds each to break in
the gunk that was in my 66 was nasty but removed easily, the .327 was nasty but not as bad as the 66
metal milling leavings and the cosmo like stuff in both
I noticed a much better trigger pull after the cleaning.
Yes. I once bought an AR-15. I broke it down before firing and found some type of cardboard tube in the barrel. You at least have to make sure the barrel is not obstructed and all the parts are there. I have several horror stories. I bought a 38 revolver that shifted point of aim. Inspection revealed the barrel shroud had not been secured. Another revolver had a very rough action, then seized up. Turns out there were large metal filings in the action, and part of the action had never been finished.
Cleaning a new gun before you go to the range will usually save you some headaches and allow you more time to do what you want to do while you are there> Congrats on your new G2! It is a fine carry piece!
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I had light primer strikes after two or three hundered rounds with my first PT111G2, because I got lazy and didn't remove the striker and clean the gunk out striker channel. It worked like a champ after I did that. I check it every couple of hundred rounds now, and do the same with my Glock.
I clean before shooting every new gun. If it's a foreign gun, it takes longer than 'Murican guns, which never had to go on an ocean liner. If it's a used gun, it gets a medium level clean before the first range trip.

After that, if the firing pin detonates a primer it gets cleaned. Disassemble, bore snake, and scrub down. The only difference between the cleaning from 5 shots or 150 is how many times the bore snake/rod go down the pipe, and how long I have to scrub the breech face, etc.

I had light primer strikes after two or three hundered rounds with my first PT111G2, because I got lazy and didn't remove the striker and clean the gunk out striker channel. It worked like a champ after I did that. I check it every couple of hundred rounds now, and do the same with my Glock.
This is why part of my cleaning routine is to squirt DriLube into the firing pin hole. The solvent that acts as a carrier for DriLube does a good job of cleaning it out. I often see that last little bit of fouling get swept away from deep corners by that stuff.
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I tend to buy used guns
I striped and deep cleaned both of my Tauri when I got them...but I dont think either had more than 50-100 rounds down the pipe
the two of them took another 100 rounds each to break in
the gunk that was in my 66 was nasty but removed easily, the .327 was nasty but not as bad as the 66
metal milling leavings and the cosmo like stuff in both
I noticed a much better trigger pull after the cleaning.
Used guns get the same treatment for two simple reasons.

I don't know who owned it before me or what they may have done to the gun.

Bought an old Long Action Smith many years ago super cheap. When I got home, I found out why it was so cheap.

Some jack leg wannabe kitchen table 'gunsmith' and decided to do a 'trigger job' on it.

They had took a file to the single action notch on the hammer and screwed it up so badly that the gun wasn't safe to shoot SA. Thumb the hammer back and the slightest bit of sudden jarring would set if off (you could get the hammer to fall by tapping on the sideplate with a finger) and, about half the time, you could thumb the hammer back to full cock and then push the hammer forward with your thumb without even touching the trigger.

A trip to a real gun smith later and the gun was safe to shoot.
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Awesome!

Thank you guys so much! Every Time I tell someone I got a Taurus, they cringe- and it eats me up- as I did significant research before getting the PT111. I am really pleased so far. I was shocked at the debri that was in the lower and barrel. Thanks guys, yall made me feel alot better about it. I should have taken some before and after pics.
They cringe?
I work with dozens of gun nuts. Some of them are gun snobs. Even the snobs own the PT111.
Those people who cringe only do so because their personal knowledge and experience is underwhelming.
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My favorite gun shop greets me by name, knows what interests me and shows me anything that may have come in since my last visit. They always have disassembled, cleaned and inspected any firearms on display. If I buy a NIB firearm they always offer to clean it and do a trigger job before I take it home. Reckon that is one of the reasons why I shop there first.
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Awesome!

Thank you guys so much! Every Time I tell someone I got a Taurus, they cringe- and it eats me up- as I did significant research before getting the PT111. I am really pleased so far. I was shocked at the debri that was in the lower and barrel. Thanks guys, yall made me feel alot better about it. I should have taken some before and after pics.
You're welcome as that's what we're here for (to learn and laugh from each other). Most people give you the side eye when you mention Taurus but that's because they don't know it's one of the best firearms out there. We do so we laugh back and use that extra money for tissues to pass out to them as they realize they could have had one too! :D
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