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I will try to explain this to the best of my ability. I feel that I was charged a Sales Tax that was not called for.

I ordered a Taurus revolver from CDNN, paid by credit card . Confirmed my FFL dealer here in Virginia was on CDNN's records, pistol to be shipped to my dealer, called dealer to inform also.

Pistol was shipped , I went to my FFL dealer here in Va to do the transfer, when paying the dealer said I owe $14.90 in Va sales tax. I asked why, since it came from out of state.

He said CDNN had listed on the shipping invoice it was sold to the dealer not me, even though on shipping invoice and bill it states to be transferred to me and paid by credit card.

Called CDNN , had round of discussion with them , they said they HAD to ship gun worded like that (sold to dealer ) to ship. I disagreed. CDNN stated all states have different ways of charging sales taxes.

I think either CDNN or my dealer is wrong, and collected the money either in error or to gain an extra $.

Seeking this forums members advice on this issue, has this happened to you if you have ordered from CDNN?

I would appreciate your comments and thoughts.
 

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I never bought guns from CDNN but I bought many guns online. When I bought guns from Bud's, I didn't have to pay the sales tax, I paid only the FFL fee. When I bought from Davidson's, I had to pay sales tax because the guns were shipped to their local dealers where I live.
 

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Magic word is "Transfered", they are not gonna eat the sales tax, you made the deal Texas but Virgina has the right to charge sales tax.

It sucks, but that's the way it is.
 

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Magic word is "Transfered", they are not gonna eat the sales tax, you made the deal Texas but Virgina has the right to charge sales tax.

It sucks, but that's the way it is.

Your input is greatly appreciated, my initial thought , was I had gotten scammed.
However, I have ordered from other dealers , out of state, under same circumstances (credit card and transfer) and was never presented this sales tax charge until today.

I ordered an Arsenal AK , from an FFL in Fla., shipped to a dealer here (in 2008) , paid transfer fee, ($35) and that was it, have things changed taxation wise since then?
 

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Was it the same dealer that charged you the sales tax?
 

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No, not the same, but I may go back to dealing with that first dealer.

This is the first gripe I have encountered with this FFL, and have done many transfers with them in the past, but lot of the transfers were from individuals, not dealers, the whole problem comes from CDNN putting on the shipping ticket.."Sold TO: This dealer"

The dealer told me, if that had not been on the shipping ticket, that he would not have had to charge sales tax.
 

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CDNN has had a few complaints lately so Buyer beware they should know how to do business.
 

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You could flush out your local dealer's intentions probably by suggesting that you will pursue the matter with the state of VA to see if it eligible for sales tax. It is illegal for a vendor to surcharge for their private gain and call it a "sales tax" IIRC. As an FFL he is strictly a conduit for the firearm and does not take actual ownership of it to where he is "reselling" the handgun and liable for collecting state sales tax. You could just cut to the chase and call Richmond to talk to the department of revenue responsible for sales tax.
 

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Sir.....very good, I am not on a witch hunt for $14, but I am only wanting to know what is right....thank you for that information.
 

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Sir.....very good, I am not on a witch hunt for $14, but I am only wanting to know what is right....thank you for that information.
Sounds like the deck is stacked against you.

I'd put this out of my mind and enjoy my new handgun, if I were you.:shooter:
 

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which place actually charged you the price of the gun? if the gun was charged from CDNN then no sales tax should be paid. Even if the gun was sent to ur LGS they are just accepting the shipping, not accepting the purchase of the gun. any out of state purchase is not subject to sales tax.
 

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The only way you're going to absolutely know for sure is to contact the Virginia entity that handles sales tax, get it strsught from the horse's mouth.

No "witch hunt", but a quest for truth in business.
 

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Other than this problem, I praised CDNN, fast shipment, and a great price.

And I want to know the facts and rules so, if I have this same thing happen to me again, I can rebuke. And hopefully this will help some forum members too.



Also I like the pistol, shot it today.
 

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I bought a rifle from them in November and wasnt charged a sales tax. Not sure who the sold to was addressed. Hope you get it figured out
 

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Hello
I live in Washington, but buy alot in Oregon. Oregon does not collect sales tax. Even though i am a washington resident and buying in Oregon i don't owe sales tax as an individual. Here's the "but" by being a Washington business and buying in Oregon they do charge me sales tax. Unless i have a resale permit on file with said supplier. Its Bu**sh** but thats the way it is.
 

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Where was your credit card charged? I'd be willing to bet, it was charged to CDNN in Texas

It's the FFL doing this. I've heard of this practice happening before. You need to find a good FFL and stick with them
 

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Before all of the lawyers here get any further, be advised that many State's Attorneys are attempting to collect sales tax on interstate transactions. Here, in Georgia, several Tennessee businesses, like Natchez Sports, won't ship into the state, just for that reason. I, too bought a handgun through CDNN, and was charged sales tax from the FFL. According to the FFL, as they had to enter the gun into their Bound Book (federal law), the state has maintained that the disposal off of the Bound Book requires sales tax be paid on the original value, to the state of Georgia.

As the economy stays in the dump, thanks to our Socialist leadership, states are trying to bring in more revenue in more innovative manners. Interstate sales has been a sticking point to many of them, and they are now sticking more than toes into the water there.

I second contacting the state agency responsible for the collection of sales tax, and getting their operating opinion. If we just start hassling the dealers, they will simply stop handling transfers. That would be a self-defeating victory.
 

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Yes, it was charged to CDNN in Tx, my transfer dealer here in Va says its how CDNN worded the shipping invoice, regardless that its stated on the invoice that a CC was charged to CDNN.
 

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Very wise input.

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"Before all of the lawyers here get any further, be advised that many State's Attorneys are attempting to collect sales tax on interstate transactions. Here, in Georgia, several Tennessee businesses, like Natchez Sports, won't ship into the state, just for that reason. I, too bought a handgun through CDNN, and was charged sales tax from the FFL. According to the FFL, as they had to enter the gun into their Bound Book (federal law), the state has maintained that the disposal off of the Bound Book requires sales tax be paid on the original value, to the state of Georgia.

As the economy stays in the dump, thanks to our Socialist leadership, states are trying to bring in more revenue in more innovative manners. Interstate sales has been a sticking point to many of them, and they are now sticking more than toes into the water there.

I second contacting the state agency responsible for the collection of sales tax, and getting their operating opinion. If we just start hassling the dealers, they will simply stop handling transfers. That would be a self-defeating victory. " Quote





I think you are onto the problem I encountered.

I could not call the state Sales Tax dept today, but intend to tomorrow.
 
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