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I'm in the market for a semi auto and I've narrowed it down to either the PT92SS or PT100SS. There are a number of reasons for this including my familiarity with the model, I carried an M9 for years in the USAF, and the fact I'd rather not shell out the difference in cost to Beretta. I'm planning a trip to the range in the not too distant future to test fire a .40 to find out whether or not I'm comfortable with it. The range has rental weapons but they don't have the PT100 available. They do have the 96 available. My question is this, will firing the Italian cousin give me a realistic comparison to work from?

This may seem like a stupid question and I fall on my newbie status as an excuse. I know there are differences in the brands, the safeties come to mind first, but I would think the platforms are similar enough that the differences should not impact the test. I only want to see if the muzzle flip of the .40 is something I am comfortable with or if I should stick with the 9mm. That being said it's my experience that assumptions like that have a tendency to bite one where they sit so I'd like to hear from the community.
 

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For the most part the Model 96 and the Model 100 are quite similar. I own a Model 101, and have fired the Model 96. I prefer the safety location of the Taurus. Neither gun seems to care for the medium-velocity 165 gr. .40 S&W rounds that are available. Stick to the full-power ammunition for the most reliability.
 

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JR to the rescue again. If I ever find myself in your neck of the woods you've got the beverage of your choice on me. I'll keep in mind they like the full power rounds better than medium velocity.
 

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I went to the range yesterday afternoon and fired a box of 165 gr through the 96. The weapon handled that box fine and since I haven't fired a hand gun in 11 years I figured I'd start "slow" ;). Bad pun but I couldn't resist. First impression of the Beretta, I don't like the safety. It doesn't bother me too much that the safety is on the slide, had that on the M9. What bothered me was that it wasn't so much a safety as a decocker. When I was getting reacquainted with it I let the slide go forward and the hammer stayed back as expected. I pushed the safety down, the hammer went down and the selector went back up to the fire position. Not what comes to mind when I think of what a safety should do. Other than that the Beretta performed well. My performance on the other hand would not have won me a Small Arms Expert rating. First round out of the barrel was low and to the right, exactly where I knew it would go when I pulled the trigger because I felt myself jerk in anticipation. I was using a man sized silouhette at 7 yards and the rest of that magazine was spread between the 10 and 8 rings. When I settled down and used proper mechanics the third and fourth mags were hand sized groups with the strays tending low/right. The last 6 rounds went into the head of the target although the last 2 hit the left ear, one through the ear lobe and one at the top of the ear. Not my best performace but I can live with it for a first outing. When it came down to brass tacks and purchasing one I opted to go with the PT92SS. It wasn't because I didn't feel comfortable with the .40, it was logistically motivated. When I asked to test fire the .40 the sales person made a face as if to say if you want a .40 I'll let you fire a .40. After I was done I asked her why. She said the .40 was alright but she believed the reason it was so popular was that it is what the cops carry. She pointed out that with the right ammo and good shot placement a 9mm was just as lethal. The deciding factor was cost to operate. 9mm ammo being less expensive than .40 will mean I shoot more and if I do it right that means I get more proficient. The bad news is she had to order the pistol the good news is it will be here a week from today and that takes care of the 3 day wait in the process. Time to close this novel out. Thanks again for your advice JR.
 

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Thank you, sir for posting this!!! I just saw the PT100 and rushed here to see if someone has posted about it. I LOVE the Beretta 92FS, my husband is retired AF, that was his main carry pistol, its also the pistol I learned to shoot on. I have wanted one for so long, and don't wanna shell out the money for it.

I have a Taurus PT111 that is my main carry pistol, and I just love it. I went on to the site to see what they have in .40 caliber pistols, and was just thrilled to see this one!! I will check out the PT92SS, though I already have a 9mm, and wanted something slightly bigger.

I did buy the Taurus 1911, as you can tell by my signature, but the first time I fired it, my hands jumped and I thought I would lose control of the pistol. It scared me so much, that its now my husbands gun, and his main carry. I do want to try to fire it again, (this time with more experience under my belt), and see how I like it. I can't imagine ever carrying it, but we will see.

Thank you again for this post...it helped this girl, tremendously!
 

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The most successful 9mm loads are, unfortunately, all +P and +P+. Despite the Hungarian MFS loads in .40 S&W, there are zero +P loads in the caliber. Nor does there appear to be any reason for them.

The PT92F has been a constant shooting and teaching pistol for me for the last 25+ years. It works, and is surprisingly affordable. One of my female friends, back in Maryland, decided on one of these after we taught her how to shoot. She stands about 5 feet even, and weighs about 120 lbs, soaking wet, in winter clothes.

SCGirl, the 1911 platform is easily controlled, unless you believe it is a horrible recoiler. A firm grip, and locked wrists will allow you to shoot it easily. You don't need +P loads, either. Spend some time handling a certified EMPTY 1911, then try it with a coach. Most people think that the 1911 pushes, while the 9mm platforms have a sharper recoil. Good luck.

When choosing self-defense loads in the 9mm, use a premium load, like the Hydra-Shok, Golden Saber, SXT, or Gold Dot. The, try to use ammunition for practice in the closest weight to match. Having the same POA/POI is best.
 

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SCGirl, the 1911 platform is easily controlled, unless you believe it is a horrible recoiler. A firm grip, and locked wrists will allow you to shoot it easily. You don't need +P loads, either. Spend some time handling a certified EMPTY 1911, then try it with a coach. Most people think that the 1911 pushes, while the 9mm platforms have a sharper recoil. Good luck.

When choosing self-defense loads in the 9mm, use a premium load, like the Hydra-Shok, Golden Saber, SXT, or Gold Dot. The, try to use ammunition for practice in the closest weight to match. Having the same POA/POI is best.
that was my issue with the 1911. It seemed to jump right out of my hands. The range master came in and gave me a lesson on locking the wrists when i was shooting my PT111, and it really helped..I can blow out that little x, I can do it with the beretta 92fs also. Its just the bigger caliber pistols that scare me a little, and I wanna get rid of this...I guess the only way I can is by practice....
 

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Thanks for the input JR, now that I've "pulled the trigger" so to speak I'll hit the search feature and look at posts about HD rounds. I've already got a .357 at home so I've got the power there. The nice thing about those is they perform double duty as far as plinking and protection. Run 38's through for practice and keep magnums in it at home. The 9mm is for getting used to a semi auto platform again. A portion of next year's tax return is going towards a 1911 which will provide the hitting power in a semi auto.

SCGirl, if you're comfortable with the 92fs the 96 is not much different. My misses were low right so the muzzle flip isn't that bad, although like everything else your mileage may vary.
 

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I checked out the 96....still thinking I might go with the 100SS from taurus...

I was dead on with the 92..blew the little x right out...I can get a tight grouping with it, but so much with my PT111, and I think thats cause its so top heavy, and I really have to work on my grip and control...it just seemed like the 92 was so much easier to shoot...
 

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1911 and 92 are couple of my favourite platforms!

.45ACP 1911 doesn't recoil that bad IMO, but it pushes and if you don't hold the gun tight enough it flip too esp. with full power loads. Reloading .45ACP gives you an option to shoot ligher ammo... 9mm is easier to shoot that's for sure, even the snappy .40S&W in a 1911 platform (to me) has less recoil.I can't CCW where I live :( but if I could I'd stick with a 9mm...

As for the 96FS vs. PT100; both are great firearms, personally I don't care for a safety on a gun so the Beretta's safety/decocker works fine for me (would even prefer decocker only), PT100 has a C&L capability which is a plus, but not really required on a DA/SA gun. Either way you can't go wrong.
 

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I love those grips gray_wolf
 

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SCGirl said:
I checked out the 96....still thinking I might go with the 100SS from taurus...
I know what you mean, I opted for the PT92SS rather than the Beretta. I only mentioned the 96 because that's what I rented from the range when I tested the .40 S&W. I decided a while back I'd rather have the Taurus than give the extra bucks to Beretta. The only reason I test fired the Beretta was the range doesn't have the PT100 available for rent.

Gray_Wolf, I've been admiring the picture on the bottom of your posts since I found Taurus Armed. Are those actually grips you have or is the picture a photoshop. I've been looking and haven't been able to find "Hitman" insignia grips anywhere.
 

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I agree, Infidel...I LOVE the beretta, but also love any Taurus pistol, and while someone mentioned to me that Taurus pistols can inly be used as garden tools, I feel quite differently..I really love my taurus, and will definitely buy more...
 

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Hadn't heard the garden tool one before, that's more clever than others. When I hear things like that I just write it off as brand snobbery. Taurus uses equipment and plans they bought from Beretta. Taurus sells for a lower price and has a lifetime warranty on what is essentially the same pistol. If someone were to give me a Beretta as a present I would accept it gratefully, but if I'm spending my own money I'll buy the Taurus and invest the difference elsewhere.
 

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well said, and I am glad you mentioned the plans and buying equipment from Beretta cause I heard it before, and then was told it was bull....
 

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well said, and I am glad you mentioned the plans and buying equipment from Beretta cause I heard it before, and then was told it was bull....
I've seen it documented here as well as other sites. I believe it was back in 1973 when Beretta lost the contract to provide handguns to Brazil. Taurus bought the works, lock, stock and barrel. Also, at one point back in the '70s, I'm not certain of the time frame and all the details, the man who owned/controlled S&W owned/controlled Taurus as well. They weren't actually part of the same company but they did exchange information back and forth. Taurus revolvers still share at least some cosmetic similiarities to their American cousins. In the 70's there were some quality issues with Taurus products but like any business that's been around that long they've taken steps to improve.
 

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SCGirl, InfidelIllini

Thanks for the compliments, and no the grips aren't photoshoped they're real 8) (here's a link to thread with a larger photo http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=7172.0). I didn't like the feel of the stock grips, so I got an engraved set of Alumagrips (custom image).


.....but this pic on the other hand is indeed photoshoped :p

 

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Alumigrips eh? I am gonna have to ck them out
 

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Will definitely check those out, thanks Gray Wolf.
 

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I guess the Alumagrips are going to have to wait until I get a 1911. According to their website they only do 1911 and Browning. Bummer.
 
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