[threedogstwo]

TTAG commentator One If By Land posted this underneath ArmaLite: We Won’t Stop Selling to Gun Ban State LEOs:
I’ve informed ArmaLite that in NYS, Section 74 (d) of the NYS Public Officer’s law (which applies to ALL government employers, sworn officers and civilians alike) specifically prohibits an employee of the State (or political subdivision) from receiving special benefits (by virtue of their employment with the state) that are not available to the general public. To wit . . .
New York State Consolidated Laws
Section 74 of the Public Officers’ Law.
d). No officer or employee of a state agency, member of the
legislature or legislative employee should use or attempt to use his
official position to secure unwarranted privileges or exemptions for
himself or others.
So, at least in NYS, private sales of “assault weapons” to LEO’s in this state is a violation of the NYS Public Officer’s law, whereas LEO’s use their position to seek exemptions to state law as well as seeking unwarranted privileges not available to the general public, simply by virtue of their position within the government.
Additionally, the recently enacted NY SAFE Act (which outlaws the sales of so-called “assault rifles” in the state), does not even exempt LEO’s in their official capacity as it currently stands, let alone for private sales. Any sales to LEO’s in NYS, including private sales, is in direct conflict with State Law.

 

[silverblackman]

Personally, I will never again purchase an Armalite product.

The reply from the Armalite employee:

Dear concerned gun owner,


First of all I would like to say thank you for filling my email with all this spam email.

Second, I am not sure where you got this blanket email from to send out as spam, but please stop it.

Third, The manufacture is not the one you need to convince.

You need to convince the law enforcement agencies and the common people about their mistake in electing these officials and have them removed. Again NOT the manufacture.


AR Stands for ArmaLite…

Respectfully,


Pat Raley

[email protected]

Master Armorer / Sales Rep.

ArmaLite, Inc.

 

[Denton]

ArmaLite's corporate response makes sense to me, but I see a problem.

ArmaLite will not sell to a subdivision that is betraying the citizenry, but will not refuse to sell to cops on the individual level. That sounds fair. Problem is, if I were the department, I would give all cops a rifle allowance and tell them to buy rifles and ammo. Simple way to get around the decision.

 

[dbeardslee]

If you ask me Armalite is not too swift. Don't they realize that the people gun bans are pointed at are their customer base? I would venture to say that you're going to find a lot more .308 AR's in civilian hands than are used for law enforcement. If this is how they stand behind us, then I'm more than happy to stand behind them in the same way - which is not at all.

 

[GunsandNoses]

Just remember who stood with you and who stood against you and then act accordingly with your vote and your dollar.

 

[MOONDAWG]

Just remember who stood with you and who stood against you and then act accordingly with your vote and your dollar.

Now, if we can just get the rest of the "SHEEPLE" to wake up and do this we might get our country back. :r_c:

 

[Wolf1477]

Just remember who stood with you and who stood against you and then act accordingly with your vote and your dollar.

Yep, they just made my purchase of an AR a whole lot easier to decide. Now, if we could get Stag to jump on the "We won't sell to prohibited state/cities" bandwagon it'd be a super easy decision (I really want that Model 8<g>).

 

[tazelmo]

Now, if we can just get the rest of the "SHEEPLE" to wake up and do this we might get our country back. :r_c:

You will not get the sheeple to change their minds unless obama say so to do it. Remember sheeple don`t have brains

 

[JR]

Armalite may well find themselves in court for following this blindly. Bloomberg will be watching, and he's quite willing to sacrifice a few NY based LEO's to get a large manufacturer into his sights.

Then again, just how many guns will they be selling nationally, if people decide that their attitude is worthy of walking away from?

 

[91 whiskey]

Second, I am not sure where you got this blanket email from to send out as spam, but please stop it.

That just burns me up like you wouldn't believe! Here I am doing what I can to prevent further liberties from being taken away and this idiot thinks it's spam? Hey Pat! Does your boss know what kind of replies you're sending out??

 

[RichO]

That just burns me up like you wouldn't believe! Here I am doing what I can to prevent further liberties from being taken away and this idiot thinks it's spam? Hey Pat! Does your boss know what kind of replies you're sending out??

Pat's boss does know. In fact, they issued a weak, sort of apology. Apparently, Pat is an active LEO who feels that the companies
involved in the boycotting are doing nothing more than punishing the individual Officer, rather than proactively supporting 2a.

 

[Peacemakr40]

Sounds like to me that Pat and the owners of Armalite need to be send a copy of the NYS law as well as a copy of pat's email and get those out to the NRA, GOA's and make it go viral. Pat wants to play, that's fine. We can play too and we can reach millions more people, including those who will uphold the laws including Section 74 as now there is a paper trail showing intent.

 

[scrabtree6]

Guess I won't be putting an Armalite product under my christmas tree in the near future...

 

[rogertc1]

Everyone get rid of you Armalites and Sprigfield pistols and rifles...don't buy another. that will show them!! Their business is located in liberal Illinois too. LOL

I thought only liberals blame the gun for the crime?

 

[Qwiks draw]

That's why I went with Olympic Arms.

After doing "Man in the Street" interviews the replies were all "Baaaaa.Baaaaaaa.

 

[dadillac]

I'm going to have to agree with the OP here. This seems illegal in that they are being awarded special privleges as LEOs. May cause a bit of a problem if anyone in New York ever stands up for their rights.

 

[smithlock]

Yep, they just made my purchase of an AR a whole lot easier to decide. Now, if we could get Stag to jump on the "We won't sell to prohibited state/cities" bandwagon it'd be a super easy decision (I really want that Model 8<g>).

I think it's time to give Stag (my AR) and other manufacturers a little email guidance with respect to this issue.

 

[Wolf1477]

I think it's time to give Stag (my AR) and other manufacturers a little email guidance with respect to this issue.

I already have, I'm really hoping to hear something positive back from Stag. I also sent one to Armalite stating (politely) that they had lost any of my future business and why, not really expecting any kind of response back from them...although considering their recent public statements I suppose them telling me to "take a flying f*&k at a rolling doughnut" wouldn't surprise me. Big city business attitude at its best

 

[JR]

"Everyone get rid of you Armalites and Sprigfield pistols and rifles...don't buy another. that will show them!! Their business is located in liberal Illinois too. LOL

I thought only liberals blame the gun for the crime? "

What has Springfield done? Could we stick to facts, and not add in tin-foil logic? Where a company is located has little to do with their policies. It's not exactly cheap to pick up a plant like Springfield Armory, and just locate it somewhere else. Have they said anything to warrant anyone bashing them?

 

[GunsandNoses]

"Everyone get rid of you Armalites and Sprigfield pistols and rifles...don't buy another. that will show them!! Their business is located in liberal Illinois too. LOL

I thought only liberals blame the gun for the crime? "

What has Springfield done? Could we stick to facts, and not add in tin-foil logic? Where a company is located has little to do with their policies. It's not exactly cheap to pick up a plant like Springfield Armory, and just locate it somewhere else. Have they said anything to warrant anyone bashing them?

Illinois is a fine state being weakened by the cancerous growth called Chicago.

I have not heard anything about Springfield, pro or neg on this issue.