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I have to start by saying that I'm still not sold on this model.



My 24/7 Pro is a 2006 model. I bought it because the NRA (bless their collective hearts) named it "Handgun of the Year". It's the one with the soft rubber grippy fingers on the frontstrap that make the grip feel really good in your hand.

When I first got it, the first few magazines I ran through it were fine. After that, though, it became a total jam-omatic. I mean, I couldn't get through a single magazine without at least two or three stoppages. I tried all kinds of things - I sent the magazines in for new ones, I lubed the crap out of it, I greased the rails, greased the slide, tried eight or ten different kinds of ammunition, hardball, hollowpoints, cheap ammo, expensive ammo... I noticed the followers seemed to not travel as freely as they might, so I shaved down their skirts. I watched my grip, tried to make sure I was holding it firm and not limp-wristing it. Made sure I wasn't hitting the slide lock by accident...

Nothing helped. After a couple dozen trips to the range, I gave up. I chucked it up on a shelf and decided it just wasn't worth the effort. I really wanted to like it, I liked the way it felt in your hand, it was accurate enough... when it did fire. I just couldn't get past the unreliability of it.

A couple of months ago, I thought about selling it. I felt that I couldn't in good conscience sell it without telling any prospective buyers what a hunk of (s)crap metal it was, though. I decided that I'd give Taurus a chance to un-bungle their mess. You can ship a handgun to a manufacturer yourself, but because UPS and FedEx are the only game in town when it comes to this, they make you ship it Next Day Air. I couldn't stand the idea of paying top dollar to ship it down there. Luckily, I found a local dealer who was willing to ship it for me at his cost. It took about five weeks to get it back. We unboxed it, the FFL and I, and proceeded to run a few magazines through it. The difference was like night and day.

I deliberately tried to get it to malfunction. I limp-wristed the crap out of it. I fired it fast, I fired it slow, I fired a couple different kinds of ammo through it. I couldn't make it jam, and I tried hard. I still don't altogether trust it, and I won't at this point until I get four or five hundred properly-functioning rounds through it. The reason for this post is this: In the paperwork they sent back with the pistol, they never actually said what they did to it. They sent a little card with the initials of whoever worked on it, whoever cleaned it, whoever boxed it up... They sent back two brand-spanking-new magazines with it to replace the two I had sent in. But no word on what the actual problem was.

I pulled the slide off and took a look inside. Aside from the two new magazines, the only difference I can see is pointed to in this photo:



It seems to me that the area of the slide the arrow is pointing to used to be more squared off, and it looks like there are machining marks where they've ramped it down toward the rear of the pistol. It kind of goes to figure that making a ramp like that would make the slide travel easier over the sear, and the rest of the crap in there. I'd be interested to see if anybody could post an unaltered, early model 24/7 Pro so I could compare theirs with mine...
 

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Welp, I stand corrected. I took the pistol out back last night with a box of WWB "Personal Protection" JHPs, and the durn thing choked worse then Dan Marino at the Superbowl. he only rounds that fed correctly were the last five from each magazine.
 

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Sorry to hear your having problems with your 24/7. I would attach a picture of my slide, but your picture is the same as mine with the sloping and dimple. Have had no problems with mine which is a later DS model (decocker safety) and does not have the 'ribber' mushy grip, otherwise same pistol as yours.

BTW, I would have used Tony Romo as an example, but he's never played in a Super Bowl.

Hope you get it sorted out as I believe the 24/7 is a fine pistol and one of the best for ergonomics - at least for me.

EDIT: My SD ammo is the WWB PP series 9 & 40 - I can't recall if I've ever run it thru my 24/7, but will next time I go to range. The pistols I have used it in (709/740/SD40VE & Sigma 40VE/M&P40C/PT111/140 - all either CC or HD) it has performed flawlessly, but that doesn't mean your 24/7 likes it. I'd give a different ammo a run before giving up.
 
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My 9mm 24/7 Pro has NEVER failed to feed and fire any 9mm ammunition and I carry it often. Even junky 9mm Egyptian surplus (which I don't recommend) has fed and fired just fine.

When cleaning, pay close attention to cleaning the Extractor Claw area and always feed your first round from the Magazine! Also, clean your magazines often.

If you do decide to trade it off, I recommend the Canik55 TP9.


Taurus 24/7 Pro 9mm with Pachmayer Tactical Grip Glove, normally meant for the S&W M&P Series. Installed this due to Factory Ribber Grips wearing off.
 

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I think I've figured it out. And I've gone and made myself feel like an idiot in the process.

I had some free time today, so I went by the local range. I brought some Blazer and Hornady hardball, 180 grain. I left the crappy WWB hollow points at home. At the store, I bought a box of Federal JHP and a box of Hornady JHP, all in 180 grain. Loaded up two mags of hardball, and went to shoot. BANG-jam. BANG-jam. Wouldn't feed two rounds in a row. I kept going, still trying. I downloaded the magazines, but that didn't help. I had a thought. I keep a TLR pistol light mounted to it, because the original reason I bought it was to use for home defense. I had a thought: maybe I had the light mounted too tight, maybe it was squeezing the frame or something, making the slide/frame fit too tight. So I loosened up the light mount and tried another magazine. No joy. I loosened it up even further. Tried again. OOPS! Too loose. The light fell off, landing out in front of the line so I couldn't retrieve it right away.

I had a few more jams, like three. Then, for no apparent reason, it started working right. Weird, right? At the end of that mag, I got this little grabber thing that they keep for people like me who lose things in front of the barricade, and got the light back. Mounted it back on the gun, making it snug but not tight. Jam-a-lam-a ding dong. Took it back off. Three or four jams, then clean running.

Experimentation showed me that any time the light was mounted, it ran like crap. Anytime the light was not mounted, it ran fine. It's been my experience that having extra weight up front usually helps with feeding issues by keeping the pistol more steady in your hand and preventing you from inadvertently limp-wristing it. In this case, it's the exact opposite. It's got to be that the frame is just flexible enough that when you fire, the extra weight up front warps the dust cover downward temporarily, tightening up the guide rails, and slowing the slide down just enough that it wouldn't travel fully rearward under recoil. Thus, the magazine wouldn't have enough time for the next round to hop up into place, and even if it did, the spring wouldn't have enough pressure to force the round up into the chamber. Hence the million nosedives I've been experiencing.

More testing will have to take place to verify this theory. I'm just bummed that it took me nearly $100 in ammo today to find this out. :mad:
 

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While I don't have the light anymore, I never had any problems with mine running it with the light attached. After a few thousand rounds, I had to replace the firing pin assembly - I ordered that from Taurus. I've also replaced the recoil spring dual spring assembly. The gun runs with no issues. The trigger can get a bit mushy if it gets dirty, but flushing it out with CLP after each range session generally cleans it up nicely.







 
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I have a flawless running 24/7 compact in .45 acp. Haven't had one hickup since new and I have been shooting my late brothers semi wadcutter reloads thru it.

It sounds like you found the issue on yours. The polly frame flex at the mounting rails makes sense.
 
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