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Aftermarket finish won't stick to a Taurus? UPDATE w/PICS

I sent a PT1911 slide off to a fairly well-know company last week for what I guess you'd consider a "spray-on" finish (matte black) and today got a call from a nice guy there who said he was about to process my order but just wanted to let me know that the company wouldn't warranty the finish on a Taurus (or a Rock Island) as they would on any other manufacturer's gun (something to do with the quality of the steel and couldn't warranty it against, e.g., flaking) and to make sure I wanted to proceed. I said I'm sure it would be fine and to go ahead and refinish it.

Anyone ever heard this, and should I call back and say never mind?

Thanks for any info.
 

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Could be something on it, a coating of some type, they cannot get off without resorting to a light bead blast or something.

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I sent a PT1911 slide off to a fairly well-know company last week for what I guess you'd consider a "spray-on" finish (matte black) and today got a call from a nice guy there who said he was about to process my order but just wanted to let me know that the company wouldn't warranty the finish on a Taurus (or a Rock Island) as they would on any other manufacturer's gun (something to do with the quality of the steel and couldn't warranty it against, e.g., flaking) and to make sure I wanted to proceed. I said I'm sure it would be fine and to go ahead and refinish it.

Anyone ever heard this, and should I call back and say never mind?

Thanks for any info.
well just damn!!
now I find this out!!!---

I wish that I had known this about 4-5 years ago before I had these 2 cera coated by a friend.
the one is coated both frame and slide as well as controls, the PT1911 AL is just the slide coated because it was such a crappy job from the factory.
and yes these have been fired quit a bit, the older one in Burnt Bronze was carried a bit as well.
Now I got to sit here and wait for the finish to flake off!!
always me!!!----

IF the finish is cleaned and prepared correctly you can cera coat pretty much anything, don't know what you guy is using?
but they cera coat poly pistols and I am pretty sure there isn't much good quality metal in a poly frame?
 

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My brother Duracoated his Judge a couple years ago when the factory matte black finish wore away, so far it has held up extremely well, only flaked away in a couple spots (both points which come into direct contact with the holster he carries it in) which my brother believes only happened due to his own failure to adequately degrease/buff the surfaces prior to application.

So yeah, I would be curious to know precisely what sort of finish is being applied here, as well as a thorough explanation as to why it isn't covered under warranty when applied to Taurus/RIA brand firearms before agreeing to proceed with the application. If my brother's do-it-yourself Duracoat application has lasted 2 years, only flaking off in heavy contact points beneath the trigger guard and behind the hammer which were supposedly inadequately prepped prior to application, then I would be concerned about the quality of the finish in question here being inexplicably ineligible for a limited warranty on 2 specific brands of firearms, not to mention the skill of the folks whom you are paying to apply it.

Just saying, Duracoat nor Cerakote have no warnings about being picky about which brands of firearms they're applied to, and both are available as both do-it-yourself home application kits and professional grade application kits which are licensed out to various businesses, not to mention known for being highly durable/wear-resistant, unlike this mystery finish which is currently being applied to your firearm.
 

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No big mystery; I just didn’t want to unintentionally cast aspersions on the company or the finish.

It’s Roguard by Robar. They’ve done a Glock and a couple Betettas for me without issue. I called back and was told the slide will be blasted with two different media as part of the normal application process. I was also informed that there are a few other makes and models that they decline to apply their lifetime warranty to; most are “lower end” guns, shall we say, but not all.
 

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I just gave you MY experience with Cera-Coat, have no idea of the finish that you speak of.
MY friend that does Cera-coat did mine for me at cost of materials.
If I remember correctly he, disassembles the weapon fully, heat bath strips the gun and parts, then dries it, then bead blast the outer parts, then sprays the cera coat, then oven dries it, reassembles, lubes , checks the function of the firearm.
to my knowledge he does any weapon?
actually he has some davis/ RG/ spesco/ Ravens that he does weird combination of colors on with left over cera coat as advertising, they are really quite eye catchers.
nothing like an RG that's got a bright red frame, royal blue cylinder and yellow trigger/hammer.
 

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I think it's a bunch of hooey, unless there is some kind of coating that has to be removed prior to the duracoat. It's also possible that they wanted to sell you something else in the process....too many people have had this done to their Taurus without any ill effects and I would think that yours would be no exception.
 
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Interesting. My M65 is at Robar now being electroless nickel plated outside, with NP3 on the innards. There was no mention of brand restrictions for that finish. My gun was nickel originally and I was told they have to completely remove the old finish and then bead blast prior to re-plating.
It's hard to imagine why Roguard wouldn't adhere to any properly prepared steel.
 
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Nothing bad about the steel used in Taurus firearms, only so many manufacturers of steel on the planet anyway................
 
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I don't know of the finish you are having applied, I have heard good things about it but no personal experience with it. I seriously doubt they would bash any brand as that would hurt their business, they must have had problems with the finish on certain firearms and that is why they will not warranty the finish.
 

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I received the slide back from Robar. Total time from drop of with USPS to arriving back at my door was 26 days, about half of the time originally quoted. I'd have to say the finish is literally flawless. I'm a tad OCD and can usually spot something however minor or nit-picky, but not on this particular job. My only concern was that maybe I should have gone with satin over matte because it's really pretty flat, but I've come to like it and it is pretty close to the flat factory finish that's on the frame and was on the original slide in terms of sheen (the Roguard is way nicer and smoother, and probably won't wear through from a cleaning with a plastic pick, as happened on my other Taurus). The grips are from Raasco Grips, which came to me a little too shiny and strangely with a different level of shine on each grip. I've sprayed them with 2 different brands of matte/flat clear, and they're still not flat enough for my tastes. Anybody know of a truly flat finish I can spray on them, please let me know. Firearm Gun Trigger Airsoft Airsoft gun
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