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As the Supreme Court heard arguments for and against the Chicago, IL Gun Ban, this man offered you another stellar example of a letter (written by a Marine), that places the proper perspective on what a gun means to a civilized society.

Interesting take and one you don't hear much. . . . . .

Read this eloquent and profound letter and pay close attention to the last paragraph of the letter....
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"The Gun Is Civilization" by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force.
If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories,without exception.

Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.

The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunken guys with baseball bats.

The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.

People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.

People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force, watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.

The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret.)

So, the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.
 

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Well written, thanks for sharing
 

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That Marine has it together!!!:).
 

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I really hope this doesn't turn up on Snopes as "busted", because it's brilliant.
 
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Excellent read! Will be passing this one along!
 

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Written by Marko Kloos, not a Maj. L. Caudill USMC

I really hope this doesn't turn up on Snopes as "busted", because it's brilliant.
It was truly written, just not by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret.)

Here is one place I've seen in the past that correctly names the author. TexasCHLforum.com ? View topic - The Gun is Civilazation

Still is a great read and rings true. All credit to the author, Marko Kloos.
 

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It was truly written, just not by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret.)

Here is one place I've seen in the past that correctly names the author. TexasCHLforum.com ? View topic - The Gun is Civilazation

Still is a great read and rings true. All credit to the author, Marko Kloos.
Heh. Interestingly enough, that is the ONLY other gun forum I'm a member of!
I just mentioned on a thread here that I haven't logged in to check that one out in a long time...
 

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Regardless of who wrote it, the article certainly does make volumes of common sense.
 

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Yes, I read that piece quite some time ago. Very good & lots of common sense.
 

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Excellent post.
 

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Well done article. As far as I know all credit due to Marko Kloos. Thanks to Chick for pointing this out.

Bribery and corruption are other elements that influence human interaction. Of course, one could argue if these fail then intimidation and ultimately force will be needed to get one's will done. My signatures are testimony to the fact that I tend to see the world in these terms.

Original article by Kloos on his website http://munchkinwrangler.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/why-the-gun-is-civilization/
if you are going to pass the article on I suggest you copy it from the Kloos site, he deserves the recognition!
 

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That person who ever wrote that has their poop in a group .

I borrowed the last part its signature worthy .
 
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