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Anybody had any problems with this caliber in the raging bull? How do you like it?
I'm thinking about going tomorrow and buy this gun. I had a raging bull a time ago in .480 and liked it, wish I hadn't sold it. Anyway they have it in 6 1/2" stainless .454 casull for $669.00. I'll be hunting deer mostly and just shooting, also just like having a big bore. What do you think?

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I think you'd be well served by a Raging Bull in .454 due to the inherent strength of that particular model as well as the versatility, enabling you to shoot anything from powder puff .45 Colt rounds all the way to pedal-to-the-metal .454 loads.
 

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I saw a guy post, once, that his .454 unlatched the cylinder under recoil, but considering it has TWO latch mechanisms, I find that hard to believe. I think he was just another Taurus basher, personally. I gotta admit, I prefer the Redhawk's latch set up, though. Similar system, but just one button to push. But, the Raging Bull is one BEEFY firearm, should last a long, long time even in this butt stompin' caliber. Me, I'd shoot mostly .45 Colt in it anyway if I had one. I have brass for .45 Colt and a light load is pleasant and accurate at the range. Probably shoot through the pepper poppers, with full house .454, LOL! Club wouldn't like it if I holed all their steel targets.
 

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I had a 454 that had the barrel apparently somehow shoot loose in the frame after I traded it off. Taurus fixed it as I understand it.
 

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I'd like to see some pictures of the Raging Bull at full recoil - in all it's glory. Does anybody have any recoil pics of the 454?
 

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I can’t think of a caliber in a revolver that I NEED less. There’s a definitive lack of Bull Elephants, alligators, grizzles or rampaging Bengal Tigers stalking around the corn fields of Central Illinois. On top of that, you need a home equity loan to afford the ammo, the recoil will break your wrist if not careful and the concussion from the blast mimics being on the wrong side of an RPG-40.

So…….I REALLY want one!!! There’s something about having the biggest, loudest most obnoxious handgun at the range. I know this is not proper gun etiquette but we’ve all been around the “range jerk” that has no notice for his surroundings including his fellow shooters. I’d just like to be able to pull out a 454 Casull loaded with the hottest load it could handle and casually saunter over close to the offender and pop off a wheel full of caps then, stand back and watch his face as he rapidly picks up his belongings and runs for his car. Ah it’s good to king of the big gun!
 

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The only problem I've ever had is twice it fired two rounds on me, I have no idea how. The only thing I can figure is the recoil was enough to make me pull the trigger double action. I don't shoot it as casual as I first did, and it hasn't happened since.

Ammo is not that bad if you reload. And who knows? If a new ice age came maybe the bison would come back to Illinois! :)
 

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The only problem I've ever had is twice it fired two rounds on me, I have no idea how. The only thing I can figure is the recoil was enough to make me pull the trigger double action. I don't shoot it as casual as I first did, and it hasn't happened since.

Ammo is not that bad if you reload. And who knows? If a new ice age came maybe the bison would come back to Illinois! :)
With all the rain we’ve been getting this year, I’m more concerned with an influx of water buffalo and crocodiles. Hey! Maybe I NEED a 454 after all.
 

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i shot a 454 cass a while back a guy had at the range , wow its a KABOOM for sure but its a managable recoil just flow with it and its fine , heck of a round he told me hes taken his deer last two years with it one shot and they drop , longest he shot was 70 yds , id like to have one but whew out of my pocket range
 

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I agree that the Raging Bull does a great job handling recoil. It's a nice piece. Mine was a 6 1/2" and it seemed to kick less with factory loads than my 4" 629 S&W loaded with stout 44 magnum handloads.
 

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Anybody had any problems with this caliber in the raging bull? How do you like it?
I'm thinking about going tomorrow and buy this gun. I had a raging bull a time ago in .480 and liked it, wish I hadn't sold it. Anyway they have it in 6 1/2" stainless .454 casull for $669.00. I'll be hunting deer mostly and just shooting, also just like having a big bore. What do you think?

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A local pawn shop has one under the counter in 8 3/8ths used. I had looked at it, and yes to own them you must if your going to save on ammo reload. Factory ammo is still availabe even though it seem's everyone is discontinuing production of the .480 handguns. I had handled this one, as I was interested in it and if I got it, yes would have to get used to the double lock up for the cylinder. One of the reasons I am hesitent on the purchase is that I already load pretty good loads for the .44 Magnum so I have to figure where is the gain.
 

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For deer hunting .44mag Raging Bull would be plenty.

but I want one in .454 5" barrel, that would be a fun toy! :)

.454 doen't have a lot of muzzle flip (at least with a .44) porting and heavy recoil takes care of that. Recoil is basically a fast push backwords.
 

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I currently own a 6.5" 454 bull. If I had to do it over again I'd get the 8 3/8. Simply because you can achieve higher velocity from it. Almost all the loading data I've accumulated was measured from a 7.5-10" barrel. With the porting, even 335gr LBT's at 1750 are managable. Loaded some 360gr., That will be a hell of a brown bear load. I prefer h110 for powder, it seems to be the most accurate. The best whitetail load i found is a hornady 300 gr. hornady xtp mag at about 1500. Ihad a bad experience with nosler partiotion gold and won't load with them again
 

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I bought a 460 smith and wesson xvr w/ 8 3/8'' bbl ,it shoots the 45 lc ,454 casull and 460 s&w mag.Bought it @ sportsman warehouse when they did a no tax sale ,got it for $900 and s&w was offering a promotion @ the same time if you bought a 460 or 500 mag you could by a s&w sigma pistol for $99 ,so i walked out the door w/ 2 guns for $1000 .I was at an outdoor range 2 weeks ago ,had a guy 8 spots down from me that said he could feel the concussion when i was firing the 460 mag w/200 grain hornday sst @ 2200 fps.
 

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:D I really like the looks of the 5 in. Raging Bull in the new catalog. I'm thinkin that will probably be my next firearm purchase.
 

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Raging Bull, if I recall correctly, was essentially DESIGNED around the 454. I have shot 454's -- horrendous. Makes men bleed and cry. You won't practic with it. There is NOTHING, other than maybe on Kodiak Island, that you can't do with a big 44 Mag, especially with all the greater variety of off the shelf/internet ammo available today (Buffalo Bore, Grizzly Cartridge, etc.), and cheaper than 454, that you can do w/a 454. Even the 44 Special is still sorta popular and cheap. 454 will last longer than 460, 480, 500 but the 44 will also and always be easer to get any ammo for anywhere in the world and wil be resellable. Think about it...

BTW, I carried a 44 Tracker in Alaska just for Grizzly and Wolf...

Just my opinion.

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One of the reasons I am hesitent on the purchase is that I already load pretty good loads for the .44 Magnum so I have to figure where is the gain.
The Gain would be...if it makes you smile!
 

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All I can say is the porting on the bull's makes a 454 manageable. If full house, high pressure 44's turn you off, stick with the factory stuff. I load a 335gr lbt over h110 to a max of 1800. Even with the porting it gets evil after about 20 rds. I would rather shoot my 375 h&h anyday. That 335 load shot through a buck chest to butt at 85 yds. Penetration was amazing. The Hornady xtp amgs are murder on whitetails, I load them to about 1900. If you must have a do anything revolver, that raging bull is hard to beat. I hve about 1000 handloads through mine, and the only problem I had was ammo related. Great trigger and action, and the grips are amazing at soaking up recoil. The ammo problem was due to kight crimps on the hard cast bullets, after about two rnds. the others in the cylinder were unseating themselves locking the cylinder. good luck and happy handcannons to every body who has one!
 

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Guys, I shot a .41 mag for decades with loads at both extremes. Recoil was "stiff and nasty" with the stock Blackhawk grips and full power loads.

I recently shot a (Super?) Redhawk in 454 with full house 454 and .45 Colt loads. All I can say is...."what the Hell are you guys talking about as far as recoils is concerned?"

I am a SMALL guy.....5'8' 130 pounds (soaking wet). I shot the 454 one handed easily with all the loads. I did NOT find the recoil nasty at all and in fact was quite pleasant. We were ALL shocked at how sedate it was. 45 Colt loads were like .22's

I can't imagine the Taurus would be worse in this respect. I also have shot a LOT of 44 Mag with the same thoughts. I once had the opportunity to shoot a .50 AE Desert Eagle. I was warned it "kicked really bad" and as a matter of fact a guy was killed locally when he fired one at an indoor range (Shooter's Choice, Cola, SC) and it recoiled back and he shot himself in the head. To say I was underimpressed is an understatement! The guy that owned it was huge and could not hit a thing with it due to his flinch.

I am NOT trying to start an argument here but the talk of extreme recoil is sure to put off some people when in fact it is a non issue, I think.

I might add that I have a Savage Striker in .308 Win. With the break closed it is a little nasty but not so much I won't fire it 20 or so times a sitting.

Recoil happens......but I have yet to let it bother me. Except for rifles...............I HATE hard kicking rifles. Getting hit once in the eye was enough. I don't shoot anything over .308 in a scoped rifle.

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I've never shot a 454 Casull before, but I have seen pictures of the 454 in full recoil (can you say 'high noon'?) when shot from a Casull SA revolver. Gunwriters used to write about how unpleasant it was to shoot. I'm sure the full power loads are made more pleasant by shooting them in a Taurus that both has a much more comfortable grip, and has a ported barrel. But all you have to do is look at the SAAMI specs to see that this is one stout load. If you can handle the recoil, thats great, but I think it is what it is - a powerhouse round.
 
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