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A couple years ago I bought this snubbie as a coat/jacket weapon. It is a wee bit too large for inside the waistband carry. I have done it, but always with a back ache by the end of the day. The big trick was getting loads to shoot at the point of aim. And also to avoid going into hot loads.




Target at 15 yards, temp 39 F, light rain. Chronograph at 10 feet.


Factory Hornady 180gr XTP-JHP = 738 fps and a 3.5 inch group (Big muzzle flash)
Factory Federal, 200gr LSCW-HP = 680 fps and a 1.1 inch group
( the shoulder of the lead SWC had to be shaved a little to chamber)


HAND LOADS:

180gr Hornady XTP-HP, WW Brass, WLP, Roll crimp into cannelure.
9.2 grains POWER PISTOL = 920 fps and a 3 inch group (which was 6 inches low at 15 yards. ) Dirty,,,, Not impressed.


200 grain Hornady XTP-HP, Winchester Brass, WLP, heavy roll crimp 1.500 COL
15 yards, high wind, fading sunlight

5.0 grains RED DOT = 547 fps and a 1.0 inch group
5.5 grains RED DOT = 685 fps and a 1.5 inch group
5.5 grains GREEN DOT = 675 fps and a 2.0 inch group
8.6 grains IMR SR4756 = 680 fps and a 1.5 inch group

200 grain Hornady XTP JHPStar-Line Brass, WLP, 1.487 COL Roll Crimp

7.1 grains HP-38 = 830 fps and a 1.25 inch group

240 grain Keith Lead Semi-Wad-cutter, WW Brass, WLP,
Heavy Roll crimp 1.490 COL

5.3 grains GREEN DOT = 720 fps and a 0.60 inch group 1.5 inch low
5.3 grains RED DOT….= 790 fps and a 2.0 inch group POINT OF AIM
8.0 grains IMR-SR-4756= 715 fps and a 2.5 inch group

207 grain cast Lead Semi-Wadcutter Hollow Point with Gas Check.
Winchester Brass, Winchester Large Pistol Primer, 1.500 col w/roll crimp


7.0 Grains of Unique = Hi-827, Lo-762 and a 2.0 inch group 1 inch low, dirty
6.0 Grains Green Dot = Hi-814, Lo-805 and a 1.5 inch group, 1.5 inch low, clean
7.0 Grains of HP-38 = Hi 865, Lo 842, and a 0.75 inch group, ¾ inch low, clean
7.2 Grains of HP-38 = Hi 906, Lo 869, and a 2.0 inch group, 1 inch left, clean

207 Grain cast lead Semi-Wadcutter Hollow Point with Gas Check .
Winchester Brass, Winchester Large Pistol Primers, 1.500 Col, roll crimp

6.2 grains IMR 700X = 880 fps and a 2.0 inch group
6.2 grains TiteGroup = 870 fps and a 0.75 inch group, very clean
10.4 grains Blue Dot = 810 fps and a 1.0 inch group, Unburnt Powder, dirty.

207 grain Lead Semi-wadcutter hollow point w/ gas-checkStar-Line Brass, WLP, 1.497 COL Roll Crimp

6.2 grains TiteGroup = 870 fps and a 0.75 inch group, very clean
6.3 grains TiteGroup = 887 fps and a 4.0 inch group
7.0 grains HP-38 = 855 fps, and a 0.75 inch group,
7.1 grains HP-38 = 865 fps and a 1.5 inch group
7.2 grains HP-38 = 895 fps and a 2.0 inch group,
7.3 grains HP-38 = 910 fps and a 1.0 inch group

207gr Lead SWC-HP with gas check, WW Brass, WLP, Roll crimp into top groove.
8.6 grains POWER PISTOL = 915 fps and a 1.0 inch group near point of aim at 15 yards. clean,,, GOOD LOAD


240gr Keith Semi wadcutter. WW Brass, WLP, Roll crimp into top groove.
8.0 grains POWER PISTOL = 875 fps and a 3/4 inch group 1 inch to the left.
Stout recoil. Probably a little hot for an alloy gun. At elast for extended use. The primers look fine. Clean. Best velocity from a 2.1 inch barrel, for this bullet weight.
SUPER LOAD

240 grain Keith SWC
7.5gr POWER PISTOL
ww-WLP, roll crimp
Vel= 828 fps and a 3/4 inch group 0.5 inch to the left
Good Load

240 grain cast lead Keith style, semi-wadcutter.
Winchester Brass, Winchester Large Pistol, 1.490 col w/roll crimp

5.5 Grains Green Dot = Hi-750, Lo-713, and a 1.25 inch group ¾ inch low, clean
6.2 Grains HP-38 = ….Hi-812, Lo-790, and a 1.35 inch group ¾ inch left, clean __________________

240 grain LSWC,
Star-Line Brass, WLP, 1.487 COL Roll Crimp

6.1 grains HP-38 = 785 fps with a 0.75 inch group with one flyer to 1.25
6.2 grains HP-38 = 800 fps and a 1.25 inch group
6.3 grains HP-38 = 793 fps with a 1.50 inch group
5.4 grains TiteGroup = 780 fps and a 4.0 inch group

255 grain Keith Semi wadcutter
Star-Line Brass, WLP, 1.586 COL, Roll Crimp

6.0 grains HP-38 = 732 fps and a 0.40 inch group with one flyer to 0.75 inch
 

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Looks like you have a winner....I like those "Pumpkin Chuckers "

Great shootin'
 

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I also tried some inverted 215 grain hollow base .429 dia wadcutters. They do not penetrate very far. I used tainted ham slices as my testing medium and they stopped after only 3 inches. But it knocked over the entire 20 pound testing stand upon impact.
The inverted bullets broke off the mushroom walls and sent out various secondary projectiles that traveled a couple inches off to each side. See Pics.
 

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Yes I was happy to finally have a use for the couple pounds of Green Dot that has been siting for years.

Painting the front sight orange and making the sides black helped. I also made the rear sight groove matte-black

HP-38 (same as ww-231) worked pretty nice as well.

This gun does not like the shorter and lighter bullets. It seems to like the semi-wadcutter design and a long side-wall bearing surface.
 

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I just ran my serial number and it was made in 2011. I bought it about a year ago. Plus I just bought a new TCP that turned out was made in 2010.
Apparently Alaska is on the tail end of the Taurus supply chain.

I also tried some light 180 and 185 grain lead full wadcutters. I also shot them from a longer barreled pistol just for comparison.

180 grain full wadcutter. (Matts Bullets) sized to .430
8.0 grains of Unique
WW brass, WLP
1.200 COl medium roll crimp
Vel- Taurus = 1,077 fps and a 2.5 inch group
Vel- S&W M29= 1,233 fps 3.0 inch group.
* This was much hotter than the book says it should be. Probably due to the .430 sizing, seating depth and small grease grooves on this bullet. Not very accurate and leads the barrel.

185 grain full wad-cutter
7.5 grains Power Pistol
WW brass, WLP
1.219 col roll crimp
Taurus-903 fps 1.5 inch grp
S&W - 1003 fps and a one hole group

180 gr Lead Full Wadcutter
8.2 grains HP-38
WW-WLP 1.220 COL Roll Crimp
Vel= 1,090 fps and a 1.25 inch group at point of aim
Little Too Hot ME= 491 ft lbs

Temp Neg 7 F.
Fading light on snow.
Target range 15 yards
Chronograph at 10 feet.

From Taurus M-445 UL 2.1 inch barrel.

Only one type of bullet today.

186 grain full wadcutter cast from Lyman mold 429348 sized to .430
Brass: virgin Winchester Primer: Winchester Large Pistol
1.210 inch COL, Roll Crimp

7.3 grains Unique = 998 fps and a 1.0 inch group, some soot in cases

6.0 grains Green Dot = 915 fps and a huge 5 inch group. with tumbling
very dark case interior.

8.0 grains Power Pistol = 941 fps and a 3 inch group with keyholes.
Rather sooty load

6.1 grains TiteGroup = 924 fps and a 2 inch long verticle string.
*** each shot was 25 fps faster than the one before as the gun warmed up.
So each shot was just above and touching the one before. This is Temp Sensitive powder.

7.2 grains HP-38 = 971 fps and a 1.0 inch group. Clean load

 

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Very nice!
 
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