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Hi to all, what would be the best model for home defense? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. ;D
 

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My suggestion is a 4-inch Ruger GP-100 or the Taurus M66 4-inch.

With the Taurus you get 7 rounds over 6 in the Ruger.

Pricewise---the Taurus is generally $60-90 less than the Ruger.
 

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Do you live in a neighborhood of closely spaced housing? The .357 bullet can penetrate quite easily through many walls and furniture.

The only place I could recommend a .357 would be outside in the woods or desert.

An in home protection firearm could be 20 or 12 gage shotgun loaded with No. 4 shot should do the job.

I'm relying on sub magnum calibers from .38 special, .44 special, .45 acp, and .45 Colt. These can handle anything walking on two legs and is criminally motivated.

For SHTF firearms, have AK-74 with 1/2 dozen 30 round magazines with plenty backup ammo.

I'd think twice about unleashing a magnum in a crowded neighborhood...but maybe you don't live in one.

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NYPD in AZ said:
My suggestion is a 4-inch Ruger GP-100 or the Taurus M66 4-inch.

With the Taurus you get 7 rounds over 6 in the Ruger.

Pricewise---the Taurus is generally $60-90 less than the Ruger.
+1.

I'll add looking at the Tracker .357 in the 4" configuration as well.
 

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TBC45---we're only giving the guy what he asked for. That's not my first choice for home defense either---believe me. :)
 

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I hear you, but the only reason I mentioned it was the fact a year or two ago I read about a fellow who an AD in his house with a .357.

Unfortunately for him the bullet went through his stereo console, through the wall of his house, and into his next door neighbors house...and into the neighbor who was plenty pi$$ed.

Though the neighbor survived, that magnum bullet probably cost the guy plenty.

If I remember the story right, the cops came and took all his firearms away from him until the issue was settled...though I never heared how it turned out...but you can bet it wasn't too good.

TB C45
 

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I would like to see the original story about the .357 going through the stereo, the wall of the house and into the next house. I don't believe it. The .357 does penetrate, but not through two or three objects or resistance like that. My solution: get a Tracker 627 four inch revolver, load it with the 158 grain .38 Special lead hollowpoint. Good seven shot, reliable, accurate, stainless, economical revolver (last past your lifetime and your children even with a lot of shooting). Get a lot of ammo, both .38 and .357, shoot it a lot to get efficient in handling it. Use the .38s for inhouse, the .357s for outside or for a car gun. I have two house guns, a Taurus stainless PT1911 (.45 Remington UMC jacketed hollowpoints) and a 627 Tracker loaded with seven .357 125 grain hollowpoints. But it is my plan to hit whatever comes in the house uninvited and I live, by choice, a long way from suburbia. But seriously, the 627 Tracker, however loaded, is a good bet.
 

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Now ya gone and done it. Asking an ammo question. Members, staff, and students of the shooting arts... what happens when a ammo question is asked? HOMEWORK gets assigned.
Professor Qwiks is in the house.

Get some snacks and and a tall beverage because this may take a while.

What's in the links is what others and myself might very well be writing.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=791.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=722.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=775.0
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http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=2689.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=2349.0

That ought to keep you in clover for a while.
Wait until you ask about holsters! Just kidding of course but this is one of the top 3 asked questions here.
Herr Professor is now going on to other things.

As for .357 magnum goes.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=948.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=945.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=3498.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=2132.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=3169.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=2805.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=2822.0
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http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=1960.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=247.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=1816.0

Brought the "A" game of info. WHile there is an abundance of info there is pertinent info in these all.

If you want alternatives to overpenetration or actual circumstances dictate another caliber here are some recommendations.
Either .32ACP or .380 ACP pistols. Taurus or Bersa pistols are good choices and won't break the bank. Ergonomic and reliable.

In revolvers there is the .32 H&R magnum or the newer .327 Federal magnum. Less muzzle flash,recoil and shock wave than the .357 magnum. These are not better than the .357 magnum or the equal of the best .38 Specials ( there are some exceptions), but they beat .22lrf, .22 magnum, and the 25 ACP while providing a decent level of protection.
This tells of the .327 magnum:
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=147.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=4917.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=3279.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=3845.0

Take some time to take this all in and let us know how you want to proceed and if you need additional guidance at all. That's what we are here for in part. To assist one another.
 

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You take the fun out of everything Quiks, and here I was gonna recomend a .44 swc. :) (that's what I have for home defense but hey I don't live on top of people either.).
 

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Tracker Backer C45 said:
I hear you, but the only reason I mentioned it was the fact a year or two ago I read about a fellow who an AD in his house with a .357.

Unfortunately for him the bullet went through his stereo console, through the wall of his house, and into his next door neighbors house...and into the neighbor who was plenty pi$$ed.

Though the neighbor survived, that magnum bullet probably cost the guy plenty.

If I remember the story right, the cops came and took all his firearms away from him until the issue was settled...though I never heared how it turned out...but you can bet it wasn't too good.

TB C45
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Hi to all, what would be the best model for home defense? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. ;D
I have my tracker 627 loaded with JHPs at the ready. I live in an apartment, and have no issues with shooting a BG with it.
 

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Wow that's a lot of homework, anyway thanks for all the comments and suggestions. Keep it coming.
 

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This being a moral,ethical, and common sense sort of thing needs to be considered closely.

I'd love to give you the Cliff notes version, but there isn't one. So read on and absorb.
Everyone here is up to a question and answer period anyway. :)
One thing people here have to remember. There are no dumb questions.and this seems to be a group effort to get things in order. :D We've got a friendly open group of staff and members.
 

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Any revolver is a good bet. I think anything bigger than a 4" might be a little large for the home ;)
I have a 627 Tracker "4 and i think it is perfect( plus it is the only large caliber gun i own..lol :D)

I would like to have a Snub for the house though, I would like it in the nightstand..
I live in a community where i can spit on the neighbors house, so i am aware of what a .357 would do if i missed,so i keep .38s in it( and those can do the same thing)

From what i have read on here, revolvers tend to be the best bet for home guns, guess they are a little easier to use under pressure.... :)

So you can't really go wrong with any of them ;)
 

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.357? What? What did you say? I still can't hear from the last time I shot my .357 in the house with no ear protection! Speak up! Here in lies another problem with the .357. I think it's a good choice, but load it up with 38's and get an 8 shot if you can. You know what's a good nightstand gun? That 617. 7 shots, Medium frame, short barrel that's hard to grab.
 

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Well, this is the first time someone has said I'm probably lying about the .357 incident. I really don't give crap if you believe it or not.

Here's another story about bullet penetration I personally experienced.

Loaded up some .38 special 158 grain Hornady HB bullets, the powder coated kind...loaded back wards into the brass with Lyman gas checks attached to the heads. (a special process I made with a Lyman 450 lube sizer press)

They were loaded to over 900 fps velocity.

This was some years back, but still have some cartridges and the old Victory model revolver I used them in. Anyway, they were shot through three 2X4's and some one bys nailed on the other side, made small hole going in about a 3.5 inch hole coming out...it then went into a 55 gallon drum filled with range debris and into the bank on the other side. But didn't dig into the bank to get the bullet as it was raining.

And that was just a .38 special.

So, you don't think a .357 can penetrate a stereo, go through two house walls and into a victim. Well find yourself an abanded house and do some experimenting. Most houses are made plywood, 2X4, and wall board...why wouldn't a magnum .357 bullet penetrate....or even a .38 special hot loaded.

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A .357 for home defence? That suggests it will not be carried on the person ccw outside the home. I'd go for the easiest one to shoot concealment is not a problem at home shootability is. I'd go for a good used S&W model 27 in 6", that's the Highway Patrolman. It's a good stout gun that will handle mags. all day long & come back for more. It's on the N frame & very easy to control. If it's to be used by your Wife & or children you may want a smaller frame the Taurus or S&W Mod 19. Just my opinion. Good luck Frank
 

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Ok..ok--we all know that a .357 Mag is not an ideal choice for home defense...let alone any handgun. I know we're all trying to be helpful here but maybe Grader has made his decision already. I'd like him to post in here again so we can find out if he wants suggestions for a .357 or simply suggestions for a home defense handgun. :)
 

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Based on my thread, I'm only interested on any suggestions for a 4 inch .357 magnum revolver. What models do you suggest. Thanks in Advance.
 
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