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Hello All,

I was at the gunstore looking for 000 buck (they're out) when I ran across some 3D ammunition. This stuff is SJHP, and the box is not labeled as "+P". However, some of the caseheads are.

It was interesting, so I bought it. Now I just need to know what it is - is it remanufactured, or did 3D buy a bunch of brass from different sources? Except for the headstamps, they all look uniform - that is, they all have the same bullet and the same bright nickel case.

Does anyone know how old these are, and how hot? Is it safe for non- +P 38 revolvers? What the heck did I buy?


Here is the top of the box... police cartidges? Maybe that explains the lack of headstamp consistency?


The front of the box...


Some headstamp samples. Notice one says "+P". That's confusing.

The back of the box says this:

3 - D POLICE CARTRIDGES are manufactured to rigid specifications, utilizing American-made, specially selected components, non-corrosive priming and modern smokeless powder. Bullets are specially designed for minimum leading and superior accuracy. Automatic production machinery is used exclusively throughout loading operation. Carbide dies and taper crimp provide maximum case life. These cartridges are adapted to all standard arms chambered for .38 special caliber and are guaranteed to perform satisfactorily.
Any ideas, gents?

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Josh <><
 

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They sound like they are "re-manufactuered" loads. My local range has a deal with a similar set-up. They sell 50 124 ball rounds for $11, or 250 for $50. All the headstamps vary.
 

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Thank you.

What good are reman HP loadings? I don't know that I'd like them for defense - maybe a woods load?

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I'd guess some people get them for defense so they can use the same stuff for carry. IF I had the extra cash I'd have my practice ammo be a JHP that I knew would feed and expand if needed but I'd still use high end ammo for carry. I've heard of some LE departments doing that since Katrina when they didn't have much ammo to send with the volunteers.

I vaguely remember hearing of a 3D in the ammo world but don't recall anything about them. I suspect that ammo'd been on that shelf for a while.

Ammoman.com lists some Federal Tactical (Reduced Recoil) OOO buck. Outdoor Marksman lists assorted full power Federal OOO as well as Remington and I think I saw some Winchester also.

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I am pretty sure those are remanufactured. Way back in the early '70's when I was a LEO, our department kept these on hand for range practice. Even looks like the same boxes. We always saved the brass to be returned to 3D and got new shipments frequently. :shooter:
 

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It is remanufactured ammo, probably standard pressure. 3D made (makes?) good, consistent, quality ammunition. Remanufactured JHPs would be good for indoor ranges where lead dust from lead bullets would be a hazard.

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