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Would you buy a Taurus chambered in the new .327 Federal Magnum?

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Looks like I bought my M85UL too darn soon. Taurus announced a small framed snub in .327 Federal Magnum. 6 shots, bigger boom than a 38, less than a 357 mag. Sounds like an interesting option. So, would you get one?
 

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Personally I'd like to see an 8 shot .327 Magnum on the Tracker frame with optional barrel lengths of 4" & 6".

As a CCW my preference would be to the 605 .357 but that's not to say I wouldn't consider the new .327 as a secondary choice between the two.
 

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Ballistics on paper are better than the .32 H&R magnum. Less pressure,less snap and mild recoil. Not a bad combo really. Makes a great outdoors, hiking, camping combo where large dangerous animals aren't always a problem. Even a pretty decent defense combo.
Though there are isn't a lot of data on any actual defense shootings with this combo to make a good judgement on. Better than a .32ACP in anybody's book.

If and when I become infirm with old age, then I'll give it consideration. For know the .357/.38 Special combo rules. Why invest in a totally new gun cartridge combo at the moment when it's not needed? At least by me for now. Later may well be different.
 

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JHP

PREMIUM PERSONAL DEFENSE


Federal Load No.
Factory Primer No.
Caliber
Bullet Weight
Grains / Grams
Bullet style
Use
T.B*

NEW
PD327HS1 H
205
327 Federal Magnum
85 / 5.51
Hydra-Shok JHP
6
4-V


Velocity in Feet Per Second

Muzzle
25
50
75
100

1400
1306
1221
1150
1091

Energy in Foot Pounds

Muzzle
25
50
75
100

370
322
281
250
225

Wind Drift in Inches 10 MPH Crosswind

25
50
75
100

0.4
1.4
3.1
5.5

Average Range

25
50
75
100


-0.4
-2.2
-5.7


This is the info for the Federal .327 magnum. Ballistics that is. There is an American Eagle ammo version with a 100 gr.softpoint bullet
327 FEDERAL MAGNUM JACKETED SOFT POINT

AMERICAN EAGLE HANDGUN


Federal Load No.
Factory Primer No.
Caliber
Bullet Weight
Grains / Grams
Bullet style
Use
T.B*

NEW
AE327
205
327 Federal Magnum
100 / 6.48
Jacketed Soft Point
6
4-V


Velocity in Feet Per Second

Muzzle
25
50
75
100

1500
1408
1324
1248
1181

Energy in Foot Pounds

Muzzle
25
50
75
100

500
440
389
346
310

Wind Drift in Inches 10 MPH Crosswind

25
50
75
100

0.3
1.2
2.7
4.7

Average Range

25
50
75
100


-0.2
-1.6
-4.5

You folks wanted data on the cartridge of .327 persuasion..... here it is. :)
 

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It would have to be lighter than the SP101. In a gun that heavy, I'll stick to the much more powerful .357 Magnum. I don't have much faith in that tiny .32 bullet to penetrate, either, or do as much damage. I don't see that the extra round is worth the trade off.

It is significantly higher in energy than the .38+P, but I know that a 158 grain .38 is going to penetrate and I have confidence that the .38 is enough gun for self defense. It is a proven round.

So, I don't feel the burning desire for that caliber. Heck, energy wise, it's comparable to 9mm+P. I have a Kel Tec P11 that handles 13 rounds of .355" 115 grain +P at 410 ft lbs and fits a pocket real nice. Why would I go for an SP101 in .32 making similar energy with a 60 grain pill????
 

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It would have to be lighter than the SP101. In a gun that heavy, I'll stick to the much more powerful .357 Magnum. I don't have much faith in that tiny .32 bullet to penetrate, either, or do as much damage. I don't see that the extra round is worth the trade off.
The whole point of the heavier firearm though, is the recoil reduction. They wanted a round that was strong with low recoil. The .32 ACP has been around for a long time and done just as much damage to people as a .38 special has. I think 500lbs of energy at the muzzle and 389 at 50 yards is plenty of force to penetrate.

It is significantly higher in energy than the .38+P, but I know that a 158 grain .38 is going to penetrate and I have confidence that the .38 is enough gun for self defense. It is a proven round.
So you write it off just because its new? If the .38 was so great, wouldn't police officers still carry it?

So, I don't feel the burning desire for that caliber. Heck, energy wise, it's comparable to 9mm+P. I have a Kel Tec P11 that handles 13 rounds of .355" 115 grain +P at 410 ft lbs and fits a pocket real nice. Why would I go for an SP101 in .32 making similar energy with a 60 grain pill????
Where are you finding 60 grain rounds? There are only 2 sizes available...100 gr and 85 gr...so lets see...500 muzzle lb-ft and 100 gr or 410 lb ft and 115 gr? But lets compare a standard 9mm round to the .327.

From FederalPremium.com:
115 gr
Velocity:1180 fps
Energy at muzzle:356
At 50: 280

Me thinks for someone starting out and doesn't already own a gun in a particular caliber, that the .327 will be a VERY good round for self defense.
 

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believe it or not the 38 is still the most sold firearm in the world and many police carry them as backup and with all the new ammo +p golden saber for example its a vary reliable little pocket gun plus its an easy gun to maintain and to learn to shoot .
 

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This is my first post here. I have 2 Taurus revolvers, a 2" .44 Mag Tracker and a 2" .45 Long Colt. I am most interested in the new Federal .327 Magnum but not the heavy SP 101 platform Ruger has designed for it. If Taurus is offering this caliber in their revolver line, where is it in the catalog or what info from the Boys in Brazil can we verify? It would work best in an ultra-lite or Titanium frame, right?
2 or 3 inches at the most. 6 shot for sure.
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The 327 is a needless cartridge. It is just the latest in the race to make things we don't want...like the 45 gap. It will be hyped in the rags for awhile and then fade away. We already have good rounds that do what need doing in that niche. Argue all you'd like but it will be as I have forseen. :D
 

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Powerkicker. Hope your prognostications aren't like mine.

The tarot cards need replacing, the crystal ball's warranty just expired. So did it.

As for the tea leaves.... they're not here. I'm sipping the result in liquid form. Oops.

I'll wait and see. Some cartridges take off like a house a fire. Then others are middlin of the road hanging on while others are close to becoming extinct.

The .41 magnum comes to mind as well as the .32 H&R magnum. Every time the gun gurus claimed a cartridge has gone the way of the dinosaurs they get proven wrong.

Then again.... sooner or later they have to be right or write. Pun intended.
 

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I am absolutely fascinated by this cartridge. I cannot wait to see how it works in the real world. Honestly, though, I would buy a .327 Mag. ahead of it's proof as a defensive tool. I'm thinking of a revolver based on the Model 85 with a 3 inch barrel. If the reports from the field vindicate it, It would be handy for everyday carry. If they don't, I think it would make a good woods gun. Even if .327 Mag fades into obscurity, I could still feed it .32 H&R. I voted yes.
 

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.327 mag, hands down, is a far superior self-defense round than the .38 special. If Taurus makes an airweight frame for this cartridge...I will immediately go out and purchase one. I will proceed to bob the hammer, do a bit of trigger work, replace grip with wood/tyler and....use my S&W 642 as my new desk paper weight.
 

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" What we have here is, in essence, a .32 H&R Magnum case lengthened by 1/8" and manufactured with thicker walls for greater strength. The greater strength is required to handle pressures of up to 45,000 piezo psi, considerably greater than the 21,000 cup MAP of the .32 H&R Mag. The .32 H&R Mag., based on a lengthened .32 Long case, has always been a fine, although largely unappreciated, cartridge. So is the old .32-20 Winchester. The latter has set the performance standard for ".32" caliber revolver and carbine cartridges since 1882 and performance-wise the new .327 Mag. is right in the .32-20's ballpark.

Any .327 Mag. revolver can also fire .32 H&R Mag. , .32 S&W Long cartridges, and .32 S&W (short) cartridges, although why one would want to do so is another matter. "

http://www.chuckhawks.com/327_federal.htm

I had been looking into getting a .32H&R but this is obviously the platform to go with because you can shoot just about every .32 cartridge except the .32acp/auto. Also it like an H&R Magnum with 440+ ft lb energy, the same as a +P+ 127gr. Winchester Ranger-Talon 9mm with less recoil. You can get heavy rounds for better penetration ,or lighter rounds for more fps, expansion,and energy.

Who is making guns chambered in this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.327_Federal_Magnum
 

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I think it was NYPD that had a good site to go to on this gun and the specs and test on it. It did catch my eye but since I just got my .357 I wil stick with it. If they came out with it before I might have got one. .38 & .357 ammo are easy to get and I bet allot cheaper.
 
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