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    Re: 7 shot 8 shot revolver?

    Thanks Big Skiff, I looked them up at the "Total Outdoorsman" and they are very reasonable. Are you satisfied with the fit and finish? Knowing your background, I would think you are or they wouldn't be on your gun.
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    Re: 7 shot 8 shot revolver?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelheart
    Did you ever think that you didn't have the ballistics to cleaning kill the dog at 70 yards with a 357 out of a short barrel?

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    Ahhhh yes, snub nose .357's, a pet peeve of mine. People buy them and don't realize they've crippled the cartridge with the short barrel. The .357 is very inefficient when the barrel shrinks below 4" and a 2" snub is...just......sad. Lot of recoil, lot of muzzle blast, but no sizzle.
    Check out 2" velocity here: http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html

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    Re: 7 shot 8 shot revolver?

    The only reason you experienced poor performance from your .357 is because of the barrel length. Out of a 2 1/2" barrel two thirds of the powder in the round was wasted lol. I've taken hogs with my 6" barreled Python before (though the .357 is minimal for that IMHO). That being said, the .357 is (again IMHO) the most versatile revolver you could ever purchase.
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    Re: 7 shot 8 shot revolver?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taurus Fan

    Ahhhh yes, snub nose .357's, a pet peeve of mine. People buy them and don't realize they've crippled the cartridge with the short barrel. The .357 is very inefficient when the barrel shrinks below 4" and a 2" snub is...just......sad. Lot of recoil, lot of muzzle blast, but no sizzle.
    Check out 2" velocity here: http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html
    Just remember this quote from the site:

    One note: in every case with the T/C Encore the length of the barrel was measured from the end of the barrel back to the breech face. This is how semi-auto pistols are measured, but revolvers are measured as the length of the barrel in front of the cylinder gap. Take this into consideration when comparing calibers using our numbers.

    What they list as a 2" barrel is a bit shorter than a 2" barreled revolver.

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    Re: 7 shot 8 shot revolver?

    The only reason you experienced poor performance from your .357 is because of the barrel length. Out of a 2 1/2" barrel two thirds of the powder in the round was wasted lol.
    Heavy bullets will shoot well out of a 2" gun. I found in chronographing different loads from a 2.3" (Ruger SP101), 3", 4" and 6.5" barrels that 140 grain JHPs are the best bet for self defense with a snubby .357. I was getting 550 ft lbs out of a 140 Speer over 17.0 grains of 2400. Same load out of a 4" gun is only a little over 600 ft lbs, so I only lost about 70 fps there for a much easier to carry defensive gun. Lots of flash bang, but less than with a 125 grain bullet that does good to get close to 400 ft lbs from the short barrel. In fact, I got only about 380 ft lbs from a 125 grain load and 18 grains of 2400. My 115 grain 9x19 load over 6.5 grains of Unique shoots 410 ft lbs from the 3" barrel of a Kel Tec P11 and the gun is more compact, the load a lot easier to shoot with less recoil and flash bang than a 125 grain .357. So, yeah, with the light 125 grain bullet, I agree, 2" barrels neuter it. But, up the bullet weight and it seems to have enough time in the barrel to catch that pressure peak and do a lot better. Most of the powder in my 125 grain load was burning outside the barrel, thus the velocity loss and big flash.

    Now, check this out, with a 180 grain Hornady XTP/JHP and 13.8 grains of AA#9, a hunting load I worked up for my Blackhawk with a 6.5" barrel, I got 1302fps/660 ft lbs out of the SP101! I only get about 1400 fps and 785 ft lbs out of the 6.5 inch barrel. The secret to power in a snubby .357 is a heavier bullet. Forget about anything under 140 grains and you're golden.
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    Re: 7 shot 8 shot revolver?

    As an aside, before I started shooting I always thought of revolvers as six shots. Boy, were my eyes opened! Five shot .44/.45's, 6, 7 & 8 shot .357's and 9 shot .22's.
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    Re: 7 shot 8 shot revolver?

    Quote Originally Posted by Corrado
    As an aside, before I started shooting I always thought of revolvers as six shots. Boy, were my eyes opened! Five shot .44/.45's, 6, 7 & 8 shot .357's and 9 shot .22's.
    Yeah, I was the same way too, when I got back into shooting. It was to be a Six shooter!, now I have 5's 6's and 9's too. Then you got to find the right speedloader? Gee, now almost 3 yrs later, at least I understand.



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