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    what does chattering look like?

    Hi all - I'm a new member. I have owned a 692 tracker (6.5 in) for a few months now and it's been a great purchase! Love it.

    Just got a TX22 and I think I am seeing the "chattering" in the barrel. I've read all the TX22 threads and seen the photos posted, but which part is the chatter? I've attached a couple photos of my barrel. It does not look right to me but I am fairly new at this.

    Also, it looks like people have been able to get Taurus to ship them a new barrel without sending the gun back to them. Is it just a matter of sending them a photo of the messed up barrel?

    Thanks everyone ! Already got a ton of great info from this forum!
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    thats pretty nasty looking , but the big question is does it lead up and is it accurate ?? it may smooth out some with use . use a bronze bore brush as needed to keep leading down. i would not even consider sending your gun back to them ,especially under the current
    conditions . -call and get on the barrel replacement list .--- good luck ----------
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    That looks terrible... but it also looks dirty. Has that barrel been cleaned?
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    Wow. The bore from "Hell". What kind of ammo were you using?
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    Yes, that is typical of "chattering" of the process during boring of the barrel - on the lands. That is the sign of a bad boring tool or technique. Barrel loose in the chuck would also do that but mostly bad boring tool.

    The rifling grooves (the cut, deeper, grooves in the rifling) show none of it because the broaching operation that cuts the rifling was done right, but those streaks and striations in the grooves - that should not be so - is that an unclean bore? If that is clean, you have a definitely poor barrel. The bottom of the grooves should be just as smooth as the tops of the lands in a properly made barrel.

    Both of these conditions being present in the same barrel makes me think of imperfections in the metal of the barrel, sand-inclusions, crystalization in cooliing, improper heat treatment all could be present.

    If it were mine, I'd hit them up for a new barrel and be done with it.
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    The barrel does appear pretty nasty, as if it's been holstered in a pocket full of gravel from the looks of the crown.

    As for the chatter, I've had a few barrels with it, mostly from antiques and one KBI 1911. I'm sure their accuracy would've benefited without the chatter, but the KBI performed flawlessly and its accuracy was on par compared with my other .45 autos.

    If Taurus gives you a new barrel, go for it, just leave the gravel at home.
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    Welcome to the forum from Northern Illinois! I would also say that they owe you a new barrel.
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    GREAT question by a new member.

    I don't own a TX-22 but I've been reading about the chatter issue as well and had no idea what it meant. I assume it could apply to any barrel, not just a TX-22. However, I'm still not sure what the chatter is. Is it just extra marks in the grooves (not smooth) that indicate the rifling wasn't done properly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaBravoKS View Post
    GREAT question by a new member.

    I don't own a TX-22 but I've been reading about the chatter issue as well and had no idea what it meant. I assume it could apply to any barrel, not just a TX-22. However, I'm still not sure what the chatter is. Is it just extra marks in the grooves (not smooth) that indicate the rifling wasn't done properly?
    Yes it can happen with any barrel-- they just don't normally escape the factory or Quality Control inspections!
    Chattering is well basically SILFISHERS barrel--its poster child for the definition of chattering, and like Flash60 said its normally a product of worn out bit, to fast of a boring process, poorly set up machine.
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    Welcome to the forum from Northern Oklahoma.
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