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    I had bought some of that Midwest a couple years ago at Point Blank in Cincinnati. Worst re-manufactured ammo since Ken's Custom. Ken guys loaded up some really soft 9mm that had me thinking my PT92 and Beretta M9 were junk.

    My CCP and PT111 G2 hated it. I had to bump the slide close a couple of times on the PT. $7.50 a box when I bought it. Point Blank was using it as their range ammo at the time.

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    OK, yes it was the ammo. Last fall I broke a foot, and hadn't been to the range for a few months. All I remember was last Aug/Sept having this issue a few times before I stopped shooting, so I didn't make the connection last week that it would happen when I started to shoot from a box of Midwest Ammo in my bag.

    I would run through a box or two of "good" stuff (Remington, Federal, even Tula) without a problem, and then I would open a half-used box of midwest ammo in the bottom of the gun bag. Then it jammed. I would go home all pissed off that it was jamming again, clean it, and give it a good lubing. I'd then put a couple of new boxes of ammo in my bag and hit the range. Cycle through that just fine, and see that midwest box at the bottom of the gun bag and... jammed again.

    This time I started with that half open box because I still had the cartridges in the magazine, and I started out having the problem after a good solid cleaning and lube the night before. I even took apart the gun at the range to try clean/lube it up a bit more, and had the problem still.

    So I opened up a box of Blazer Brass 124gr and shot 50 rounds flawlessly. Then shot 100 rounds of Blazer 115gr flawlessly. Then a final 8 rounds of Federal without a problem till my time was up.

    I think what was happening is the ejector wasn't fitting over the case, which is why it was getting jammed where it jammed.

    This has made me initiate a practice of having a spread sheet to track range time and failures, so I can get a better idea when some ammo may cause more problems than others.

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    Welp, sounds like it's all right now huh?
    Are we there yet?
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    One thing I do with all my guns is give the chamber and bore a good cleaning with J-B, bore compound, a polished chamber goes a long way to help an auto function, poor ammo especially steel case ammo (in my opinion) will really mess up a chamber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldtimer View Post
    One thing I do with all my guns is give the chamber and bore a good cleaning with J-B, bore compound, a polished chamber goes a long way to help an auto function, poor ammo especially steel case ammo (in my opinion) will really mess up a chamber.
    an yet many high volume, most used military weapons are from Europe where steel cased ammo is standard.
    My Tanfoglio and CZ never (so far) missed a beat when shooting the stuff.
    now they don't get much of it as I reload and shoot Brass cased, but there have been several times where someones weapon was having problems at the range and I would run a few of their steel cased factory ammo through mine and of course the ever cheap buddy that buys the stuff and I may get asked to try thiers for accuracy in my guns.
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    To each his own, many military weapons have "loose" fit chambers such as the Ak47,certainly they will eat steel cased ammo, look I'm not telling people to not use steel case one thing is we still have a fairly free country but I will not use steel case only if I cannot find brass. Manufactures today do not polish parts to any degree my point was using JB compound will give you a more clean chamber to run any ammo even cheap stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by olfarhors View Post
    an yet many high volume, most used military weapons are from Europe where steel cased ammo is standard.
    My Tanfoglio and CZ never (so far) missed a beat when shooting the stuff.
    now they don't get much of it as I reload and shoot Brass cased, but there have been several times where someones weapon was having problems at the range and I would run a few of their steel cased factory ammo through mine and of course the ever cheap buddy that buys the stuff and I may get asked to try thiers for accuracy in my guns.
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    but yet again, I believe that any weapon that is considered good "approved" for NATO use must under go testing, very stringent long round count testing to assure a certain amount of function, reliability and use in battlefield conditions, using the NATO approved rounds.
    pretty much the same as American military test for pistols.
    now I am speaking mainly to Pistols here as that was the general subject.
    so a certain amount of fit and polish must be built into those weapons as well as a certain amount of play or looseness.
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    My (cheap, lower quality) PT111G2 eats anything I put through it, well over 5000 rounds...................
    Have to excuse me, Taurus does make good guns, regardless of price..............
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    Lookie there, the forum provided the answer!

    Glad to have you with us! Hope you stick around!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostHorse View Post
    Lookie there, the forum provided the answer!

    Glad to have you with us! Hope you stick around!
    EXACTLY
    we may not have the correct answer but we usually give an answer, usually accompanied with opinions--which also may or may not be correct or popular.
    but we do our part!
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    Quote Originally Posted by loudviking View Post
    My (cheap, lower quality) PT111G2 eats anything I put through it, well over 5000 rounds...................
    Have to excuse me, Taurus does make good guns, regardless of price..............
    No, no way jay. Taurus makes junk...JUNK! Just look it up on the internet! I like junk, so I have four Taurus guns, but I'm fine with how crappy they build their stuff...because the internet says so.
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