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    357 cartridge stuck in 461 Cylinder

    I was at the range recently after getting my new Rossi 461. I fired a round of 38's to get used to the gun and then got ready for the 357's (158 GR Winchester JHP reloads) The cartridges slid right in the cylinder and all fired with no issues. Unlike the 38's, which I extracted easily, I had issues with the 357's I really needed pressure to push them out, and finally did get them all out. Then I fired a second round after easily placing the cartridges in. Again, I had difficulty extracting the shells. I could not get one of them out at all, and had to use a pliers when I got home. I was gentle, but still could not get out with my hands. I also noticed that the shell could not be placed back in the cylinder. It just would not fit and seems to have expanded more than it should have. Unfired cartridges slid right in.

    Is this a common problem with perhaps reloads? I have read that many 357's jam like this if you shoot 38's in them. I believe this is a common problem known as "salling" or something like that. Also, I was thinking there were issues with the reloaded 357 I got . I am not anxious to shoot this gun anymore and this really bothers me.

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    Re: 357 cartridge stuck in 461 Cylinder

    It's either reloaded ammunition or a very dirty cylinder. I tend to believe it's reloads though.
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    Re: 357 cartridge stuck in 461 Cylinder

    The .38 special cartridge is just a little shorter than the .357, and that short amount of extra bare cylinder space gets dirty. Just use a cylinder brush and the trouble will go bye-bye. The same thing happens if you fire a lot of .22 shorts in any .22 firearm and then try to fire a long rifle without cleaning the chamber or cylinders well.
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    Re: 357 cartridge stuck in 461 Cylinder

    Sounds like that .357 stuff is a might warm. Back off that throttle there, AJ.

    Go buy some factory brand name .357 and try that. If you bought these reloads, let the buyer beware. I would pull the bullets on 'em, myself. They sound too hot.

    It COULD be build up in front of the .38, but I've never seen that happen with just a few rounds. Usually takes a while to build up. I scrub my cylinder chambers when I get home after every range trip. I've never had the problem and I've fired many, many thousands of rounds of .38 in my .357s.
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    Re: 357 cartridge stuck in 461 Cylinder

    i have the same problem in my 462 with any brand .357 i've fired in it. not to the extent you had, the extractor always gets em out, but they don't come out easily.

    never had that problem in any other .357, and i've shot a bunch of them
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    Re: 357 cartridge stuck in 461 Cylinder

    Very dissapointed in Rossi. I'd have to say based on this experience thay are CRAP!!!!

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    Re: 357 cartridge stuck in 461 Cylinder

    Because you have one gun that is having problems ejecting .357, all Rossis are crap? Okay, whatever, move on.

    I've had a few, 5 of 'em revolvers, and none of 'em were "crap".

    You're firing questionable ammo after firing a bunch of .38 in a .357. I can't yet blame the gun for the problems you're having. Take the cylinder out and soak it in Hoppes No. 9, then scrub it out with a brush. Buy some factory ammo and go try it again.
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    Re: 357 cartridge stuck in 461 Cylinder

    My friend just got the Rossi 357 and it shoots almost as good as my S&W 686 and I've had work done to it. So Rossi is hardly crap.
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    Re: 357 cartridge stuck in 461 Cylinder

    Any 357 magnum revo I've ever had would start sticking with hot magnum loads. The 38 special brass starts leaving leading inside the cylinder walls, and if it isn't cleaned out really well, it will make the brass stick when trying to extract it. Sometimes this will start happening even if the cylinder is very clean - it's probably just a byproduct of being able to use the shorter casings in a 357.

    This has happened to me with Rugers, Tauri, an both of my S&W revolvers. Believe me, they are not crap.
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    Re: 357 cartridge stuck in 461 Cylinder

    The first time I ever fired the weapon, so not much lead from 38's would have really clogged up the cylinders yet. I always clean my guns, and they are always in ready to go shape. I have owned 15-20 different models of all types over time and no weapon should have exhibited the characteristics that the Rossi did. Yes, my particular Rossi is crap and bottom line, I would not stake my life on it. Any gun that I feel this way about will not stay in my collection. I absolutel agree that the loads were probably hot, no arguement from me. And I agree that all Rossi 461's are not crap. But you all know that once you lose confidence in any weapon, forget it. Like was said before.. move on.....

    I purchased a Taurus 856 as the replacement. 38 special to me is just as good for my needs than the 357, which was not my carry gun anyway.

 

 
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