Congratulations on the new Rossi! I'm looking forward to seeing some pics.
I just got home from my FFL with my new R97104. I ordered through Bud's and got it for $313, plus 6% KY sales tax and a $25 transfer fee.
So far I am impressed. It locks up tight - no movement - on 5 of the six chambers. The last one has just a tiny bit of axial movement. Timing seems fine, but of course I haven't fired it yet.
The blued finish looks good, although maybe not in the same class as my Browning Hi Power or my S&W 10-5. One thing that I was surprised to see is that "ROSSI" is NOT rollmarked into the left side of the barrel, and the caliber is marked on the underside of the barrel lug, not on the right side of the barrel. The only mark on the barrel is the serial number, which is laser engraved into the right side of the lower lug. The frame, of course, has the usual markings.
The front sight is equipped with an orange insert, but it's just a small rectangle in the rear face of the front blade, not the dovetailed-in one that is seen in some photos. I think that this is the new style, and I like it this way.
An HKS Model 10 speedloader works with it, and the left grip seems adequately relieved.
I have a Triple-K Carrylight holster for my Model 10, and it fits the 971 like a glove.
Trigger pull in single action is very good. Double action pull seems ok - a little gritty - but I haven't lubed anything yet.
Happy enough so far, and maybe this weekend I'll get to see how it shoots.
Pics will follow......but y'all know what a 971 looks like.
Edit to add: I lubed the pistol - just applied some drops of oil on the usual suspects - and the double action pull smoothed right up. Must have been really dry.
One thing I missed when examining the pistol at the LGS - the cylinder lock mechanism is significantly different from that of a Smith & Wesson. On a S&W there is a latch at the rear of the cylinder and at the front of the ejector rod. When you press the latch it releases the rear latch, and a rod that runs up the center of the ejector rod presses in the front latch to release that one. On a S&W the front latch needs a drop of oil once in a while. On the Rossi there is the same latch at the rear of the cylinder, but the front latch is a spring-loaded plunger on the top of the crane. Other than that one difference the design is very similar to that of an older Smith & Wesson. (Note that the original S&W M&P revolvers from 1898 only had a rear latch, as did the Colt. In 1902 they added the front latch. (The Colt doesn't need a front latch as the cylinder rotates clockwise, pressing the crane into the frame, whereas on the S&W the cylinder rotates counter-clockwise which pushes the cylinder away from the frame.)
Last edited by tpelle; 01-20-2015 at 05:55 PM.
Congratulations on the new Rossi! I'm looking forward to seeing some pics.
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Congrats, looking forward to range report and pictures.
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Congrats! Very nice.
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Congratulations on your new revolver.
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OK, I know the rules on gun forums - buy a new gun and it is a requirement to post pictures - so here she is, in all of her dirty, smoked-up glory:
Over the last few days I've been trying to get the revolver action smoothed out by oiling and dry-firing it (with Tipton Snap Caps). Unlike what you hear concerning other firearms, this one, on delivery, was as dry as a bone. The action was very gritty feeling, but my click-and-lube therapy was bearing fruit.
I went to the range today to try it out. All shooting was done in one of my club's practice pistol pits, all double action, and at approximately 7 yards range.
First I loaded up six Winchester 110 grain .357 Magnums. All fired fine, but when I tried to open the cylinder to reload I found that the cylinder didn't want to open. I guess that the case heads must have been jammed back pretty tightly against the recoil shield or something, because it took a substantial push with my right thumb to get it to swing open. All cases ejected fine, and all looked OK - no pierced or high primers or anything.
This first-ever group from this pistol was nothing to crow about - about 6" left and 4" low, and a group about this size of my opened hand. I clearly need to work on my grip - I find what seems to work best is curling my right thumb sharply down to keep itclear of my trigger finger, and placing my support hand so that the left thumb is on top of the right thumb. I am putting my distal phalangeal joint - the "power crease" as they call it - on the trigger, and if I don't get my thumbs correctly on the grip they interfere with the trigger finger. More practice is definitely needed. I was also having trouble seeing the orange insert in the front sight against the targets I was using, which also happened to be printed with orange ink against a white background - who ever thought THAT would be a good idea!
Next I loaded with my own handloads - .38 Specials with 158 grain lead semi wadcutters over 4.4 grains of Unique and CCI small pistol primers in assorted brass. These shot closer to point of aim elevation-wise - heavier bullets will tend to do that - but eventually I had to put on several clicks of right windage to center the groups up.
The only other issue that I am having - and I think that it's related to the lack of lubrication issue - is that sometimes, when I close the cylinder after a reload, the trigger can't be pulled. This is clearly due to the cylinder latch not moving fully back, so that the lug on the tail of the latch is still blocking the hammer. Giving the latch button a little tug back frees it up. But clearly I'm going to have to get some more lube into the works.
I see a sideplate removal in my future.
But all in all I'm fairly happy. I used to shoot revolvers - the first centerfire handgun that I ever bought was a Smith & Wesson Model 15 - but for years now I've been using semi-autos exclusively, so I've got some retraining and practice to do. But I'm having fun.
Last edited by tpelle; 01-25-2015 at 01:22 PM.
Congrats on finally getting your Rossi revolver. I think that it was a solid choice to go with the .357 Mag 971 rather than the .38 Special 851. I've decided to go the .357 route too but for now my enthusiasm for Rossi has ebbed a bit. It's still a contender but I'm also considering the EAA Windicator.
To be sure however, I'm more than a bit jealous that you have your gun in hand. I wasn't pleased with the near $40 price increase (altho I see that Bud's has dropped the price by a few dollars). Your OTD price of $356+ exceeds my desired $350 max.
Since I already have my .357 Mag Windicator "snubby" I'm not feelin' the need to rush out and get the same gun with just 2 more inches of barrel.
Again, congrats on your purchase. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
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