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    When I first saw this thread title I thought that you were talking about a Mossberg 590 Shockwave fitted with a KAK brace.

    Judging by a few of the responses in this thread, I wasn't the only one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NativeTexan View Post
    You're assuming I'd want it for home defense. That would be wrong. With these minimal calibers, I would not wanna give up too much on a hog. You see, I'm thinking truck guns, compact, yet easy and quick to get at when a pig crosses our private road. I don't think any AR caliber would do short of a .450 Bushmaster or .458 SOCOM and those, I've heard, are not very nice to fire with a brace. I've even heard braces don't hold up under that much recoil.

    As to any thought of a magnum round being painful shot indoors, it's not pleasant, but it's not "painful". I have fired a 12 gauge indoors, didn't kill me. It did quite kill the rat I was shooting at.
    Yep. For a compact truck gun to down some hogs, I'm still advocating the 300BLK (also plenty of video's of hogs succumbing to single shots from the BLK ) and fully agree that a .22 cal round moving at around 2000 fps out of a 10" barrel probably won't get the job done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NativeTexan View Post
    Anyone ever shoot a 10" AR over a chronograph to see how much is lost by the short barrel?


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    Funny, I don't ever remember hearing the crack of a shotgun going supersonic.

    A loss of 400 fps in a short barreled 5.56mm only brings it down to around 2,400 fps, depending on the ammo brand, still fast enough to get the job done. But agreed, I like a supersonic .300BLK over a short barreled 5.56mm for just about everything, as long as the range is inside 300 yards, out past that the 5.56mm is the better round. Just remember, the Army's M855A1 5.56mm cartridge is rated to penetrate body armor out past 600 meters and to put 10 rounds inside a 8" circle at 600 Meters with the M4A1. But the .300BLK is no slouch at close range. It is the equivalent ballistically to the 7.62x39 AK round, but more efficient (faster) out of the shorter barrels.

    LOL, lock yourself in a closet and fire a full house supersonic .44 Mag without hearing protection and tell me it is not painful. It is unpleasant outside, inside it just plain hurts. Now when it comes to painful, the 5.56mm out of a short barrel is worse than any .44 Mag.

    The .458 SOCOM and .450 Bushmaster are not punishing to fire, but they are known for breaking adjustable stocks. A pistol AR in .458 SOCOM or .450 BM is not a good idea. Now if you want a short truck/trunk gun, just pull the pins and carry it in 2 pieces in a short padded bag. They go together fast enough, especially if you have those extended pull pins.
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    Where the SBA3 has the KAK ShockWave beat is in its ability to quickly adjust LOP. The SBA3 uses a MILSPEC buffer tube (another advantage) and adjusts like most adjustable MILSPEC stocks, while the ShockWave has a set screw, so you set LOP and leave it. ShockWave has the SBA3 beat on price, by a country mile. I think I caught a KAK ShockWave on sale for $25, and $35 for a set with the KAK pistol buffer tube with the dimples, so you don't put that set screw through your buffer tube. The one, old, Sig brace I have simply slips on the pistol buffer tube and has only one setting short, plus it is heavy as hell. I might replace it with a SBA3 or 4, if I can get one cheap.
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    sba3...$100 with free shipping using MDX code at Brownells

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    It would need to be about half of that before I would buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenWolf70 View Post
    It would need to be about half of that before I would buy it.
    I am in this camp also. I have the KAK on mine for somewhere around thirty bucks and I mounted it on my existing Milspec buffer tube that came with my complete lower. It does the job for the amount that I shoot the gun. If I start to shoot it more and the price gets below 60 I may be a buyer.
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    Good choice and well done. The Sig Braces provide loads more surface area over the KAK to rest against one's shoulder, absorb recoil and provide much more stabality when shooting. (They named the KAK "Blade" for a reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueTS1 View Post
    Good choice and well done. The Sig Braces provide loads more surface area over the KAK to rest against one's shoulder, absorb recoil and provide much more stabality when shooting. (They named the KAK "Blade" for a reason.
    and I'm sorry I wasted my money on those KAK's

    as soon as I can find an OD green SB Tactical sba3 for $100 I'll be swapping braces on my other AR15 pistol

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