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    Quote Originally Posted by rexherring View Post
    My .357 cast should work well in that ranch rifle for some cheap shooting.
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    Pros:
    +uses standard .223/5.56 BCG
    +Uses standard AR .223/5.56 mags
    +can probably fire standard .357 bullets
    +reloaders will probably be able to convert .223 brass to .350 Legend

    Cons:
    -Looks to headspace on the case mouth...could be dodgy
    -Seems to be trying to fit a very special niche - recoils less than a .450 BM, hits harder at 200 yds than a .300BLK, penetrates further than a .243 Win at 200 yds...but no direct comparison across the board to these three rounds...
    --and extrapolating from the above, it definitely does not hit as hard not penetrate as far as the .450 BM, also probably does not penetrate as far as the .300BLK due to the projectile profile, and most likely recoils more than the .300BLK as well (possibly projectile weight dependent).

    Still looks interesting and could most certainly be configured as a pistol AR. Now don't get me wrong, I am not knocking it, just want to see it being independently reviewed and its capabilities tested before I start singing its praises
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yissnakk View Post
    Pros:
    +uses standard .223/5.56 BCG
    +Uses standard AR .223/5.56 mags
    +can probably fire standard .357 bullets
    +reloaders will probably be able to convert .223 brass to .350 Legend

    Cons:
    -Looks to headspace on the case mouth...could be dodgy
    -Seems to be trying to fit a very special niche - recoils less than a .450 BM, hits harder at 200 yds than a .300BLK, penetrates further than a .243 Win at 200 yds...but no direct comparison across the board to these three rounds...
    --and extrapolating from the above, it definitely does not hit as hard not penetrate as far as the .450 BM, also probably does not penetrate as far as the .300BLK due to the projectile profile, and most likely recoils more than the .300BLK as well (possibly projectile weight dependent).

    Still looks interesting and could most certainly be configured as a pistol AR. Now don't get me wrong, I am not knocking it, just want to see it being independently reviewed and its capabilities tested before I start singing its praises
    I haven't looked, but there's most likely rifle bullets in the proper bore diameter already on the market. There's a good many .35 rifle rounds out there.

    I note that they left the 200gr .358 bullets (I've seen molds for at least 2 different bullets) out of their list. I wonder if it's too long to feed through a AR15 mag.
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    I checked this morning and most bullet manufacturers make a 200gr .358" rifle bullet that's intended for the .358 Win Mag. There's also a cast 200gr GC on the market.

    I remember a mold for a 230gr .358" but I really doubt it would feed. The thing looked like a flying Coke can. On the other hand, it would make for a nasty sub sonic round if you could beat it into submission and make it feed reliably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtg452 View Post
    I checked this morning and most bullet manufacturers make a 200gr .358" rifle bullet that's intended for the .358 Win Mag. There's also a cast 200gr GC on the market.

    I remember a mold for a 230gr .358" but I really doubt it would feed. The thing looked like a flying Coke can. On the other hand, it would make for a nasty sub sonic round if you could beat it into submission and make it feed reliably.
    As they seem to be running pistol length gas systems, that sounds very likely. Faster magnum style powder, lower loads, deeper seating to drive up pressure...
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    went to the link, saw the precision rifle in 300 prc, waiting for the hawkeye long range to get that chambering and then ordering it.
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    FAQ’s from Winchester. Notable answers.
    1, no parent case.
    2, can not use 223/5.56 cases
    3, standard AR mag will not work.

    I am still wondering why use a .357 bullet in a .355 bore?

    https://winchester.com/350-legend/faq

    https://saami.org/wp-content/uploads...ng-Website.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_R View Post
    FAQ’s from Winchester. Notable answers.
    1, no parent case.
    2, can not use 223/5.56 cases
    3, standard AR mag will not work.

    I am still wondering why use a .357 bullet in a .355 bore?

    https://winchester.com/350-legend/faq

    https://saami.org/wp-content/uploads...ng-Website.pdf
    Well, that strikes most of the "Pro's" off my original list...becoming more niche by the second...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yissnakk View Post
    Well, that strikes most of the "Pro's" off my original list...becoming more niche by the second...
    Same here, but I'm trying to keep an open mind about it.

    Not being able to use standard AR Magazines is really disappointing.
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    My understanding is that the .350 Legend is a straight sided case to comply with hunting regulations in certain states that call for shotgun, or straight sided case cartridges to be used in hunting. Friend of mine said he thinks it is very comparable ballistically to the .35 Rem. He also said it is quite a stretch to say it is more powerful than the 30-30. He thought they were comparing its most powerful loading against the least powerful loading of the 30-30.

    Uses modified AR mags, just like the 65.5 Grendel and the 6.8 SPC. Basically the same magazine tube with a different follower. The cartridge body is, like these other 2 cartridges, larger than the 5.56mm.
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