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    M&P9C... Looking at one... safety features

    I like these. Might get one. Noticing all the safety options (no safety, thumb safety, magazine safety, etc.). Discounting revolvers, every gun I ever owned had various safeties, but I have noticed on this forum an avid dislike/disapproval of any sort of safeties on the plastic pistols. Seemingly. Is this just because that’s what the Glock generation grew up used to? Or?

    I don’t have a problem with any of the different kinds of safeties and see value in all of them. I don’t have a problem with someone not wanting any, just curious since I’m shopping around. I have looked at Glock 26, too.

    What is the reasoning/opinions on this? Thanks.
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    Well simply put a safety is just another delay in putting out a round in times when your life is on the line. Ideally it is almost instantaneous but in a crisis you have to remember and have time to switch in off. Nothing can compete with pulling the gun ot and pulling the trigger.

    Some say "well just don't use it". To me that is even more dangerous because you don't know if it got flipped on somehow in the holster. My policy is better if it has none but if it does I use it.
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    My understanding is that a lot of folks prefer not to have any active safeties because they can slow you down, particularly in a high stress situation.

    Personally, I like to have some though my preferences would be passive safeties, along with a trigger that isn't too light being covered by a good holster. I particularly like the grip safeties in combination with trigger safeties on Springfields.

    For a pocket gun I'd want either a revolver (again, no light triggers) or a thumb safety on a semi-auto, using a pocket holster if possible.

    For me, the biggest thing is not changing carry guns very often. Stick with one and practice with it. If you use a thumb safety, practice with it regularly. Repetitive drills work. There's no such thing as "muscle memory" but there is such a thing as habit learned from repetition.

    Just my personal preferences and opinions.

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    I have the S&W MP 2.0 4" barrel. Last Sunday out of the box I ran 500 round through it. The pistol doesn't any safety and that's the way I like it.
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    For me it depends on the pistol and its use. When training new shooters I will start them out with a safety model. On my carry guns its not that important to me. I carry my SR9C with the safety off. But like to use the safety when pulling the pistol out of the holster for storage or maintenance, prior to unloading. My other carry is a PPQ which has no safety. My wife's SD pistol is a MP EZ 380, I like it has the grip safety since she isn't as proficient with pistols as I would like ( we are working on that). She keeps it in a holster with the frame safety off. It also depends on how good the safety is. If its too soft and easy to move, then I don;t want it. The safety should be something that is deliberate and will stay in place, until you use it.
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    I have Several M&P handguns but not one of the compact models. I
    prefer the Shield model which I have in .40.

    You probably need to handle and maybe shoot a couple of different
    ones. The single stack Shield conceals better in my opinion.
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    I remember when I bought a Glock (26?) in the mid 80’s, I think it was, but I could have my time frames messed up... it was when the little sub compact first came out. Anyway, I’m Austrian by heritage and I had been thinking of getting a Glock just for that reason. So I did and, man, did it look and feel weird not to have a thumb safety! I got rid of it after a year or so. Wish I hadn’t.

    I suppose having the option for whatever safety I want with the M&P is slowing me down. Maybe it just isn’t needed on polymer non-hammer fired pistols, but is on traditional hammer fired SA & DA pistols.

    Appreciate the input.
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    I've got the S&W Compact Shield in 45 ACP in my Alien Gear holster right now. I like manual safeties for a few reasons and have no problem flicking it off when I draw. I need not worry catching the trigger on anything while holstering. In the odd event that someone should pluck it from my holster, they may not know to click it off and give me an extra couple of seconds...to pray or react.
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