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    Got To The Range With The P320 and the Canik TP9

    First the good..the Sig is a hoot to shoot. Great trigger, low recoil for a 45 ACP and had one FTF out of 80 rounds. It might be shooting a tad left at 25 feet per the target below.

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    Now the Canik TP9SFL with the 10 round magazine was also very accurate, perhaps even more so than the Sig. Firing my 9mm reloaded 124 grain PRN and PHPCB it was putting them on POA, again with a very sweet trigger. It would NOT feed the next round..at all. I had to eject every single case with a slide retraction. Very frustrating. I shot three magazines and gave it up.

    Now true confessions. I shot them out of the box with no cleaning or lube whatsoever. I know...mortal sin. My excuse is that I've been really busy and even the range trip was sandwiched between a photo shoot of some real estate.

    Looking at the feed ramp of the Canik, it appears to be at a very steep angle. I've never had one before so don't know what it should look like.

    I will be cleaning them both thoroughly and have them lubed for the next outing...maybe tomorrow!

    The third gun out today was the CZ 75 Compact which did not disappoint...as usual. Ran those 9mm Xtreme PHP 124 grain reload through it and yes, they are accurate. Just don't see the advantage over the PRN to justify spending more for them.
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    Congratulations on your new Sig P320 and Canik TP9SFL and sounds like you've had a productive Range Trip!

    Glad that the Sig P320 in .45 ACP is shooting fairly well!

    Also glad that your Canik TP9SFL is accurate, and most all Caniks are, as even the lowest priced ones come with a Nitride finished Match Grade Barrel.
    Sorry to read that you've had a feed reliability issue. Both my Canik made TriStar T120 and TP9V1 have NEVER failed to feed anything 9mm that I've fed it, so far.
    My Canik TP9V1 also has a very very steep Feed Ramp, if you can call it that. I'm thinking it feeds more directly from the Magazine into the Chamber and bypasses the Feed Ramp.
    I'm thinking you may have a Magazine Issue there. Give your Magazine a thorough cleaning and see if that helps.
    Only a 10 round Magazine? My Canik TP9V1 Magazines hold 18 rounds. I can see where you would want a 10 round Magazine for shooting USPSA Production Class.

    Glad that the Cz75 Compact is still delivering good times at the Range!
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    The funny thing is that the Canik feed ramp is brightly polished while the Sig ramp looks like a it's got a nitride coating just like the rest of the barrel. I considered polishing the feed ramp of the P320, but figured if it wasn't broken...why fix it. One FTF on that guy and probably due to a dirty gun. I have both cleaned and lubed and waiting for the chance to get back out. I have three 18 rounds Canik mags on order from GrabAGun which I hoped would be shipped by the time I go to shoot again, but they are taking their time on getting them out and I won't have that much patience...I want to shoot those guns. One Canik forum post said to leave the slide out of battery to relax the RSA...another said that Canik will send out a lighter pound RSA if asked at NC...I already made that inquiry also.
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    You mentioned running handloads with the Canik? Maybe you have a COL problem. Does the Canik pass the plunk test?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverstring View Post
    You mentioned running handloads with the Canik? Maybe you have a COL problem. Does the Canik pass the plunk test?
    I've not tried that yet, but load them fairly short as my PT 111 G2 magazines demand it. I was having an issue with rounds hanging up in those mags when I first got that gun. After cleaning the heck out of those units, I finally figured out that the 9mm rounds which fed fine if my CZ 75 and PT 92 were too long for those magazines.

    I'm operating with the suspicion that the RSA is too strong, from info on the Canik forum. Canik replied to my email telling them of the issue and they are sending a lighter RSA assembly. I also have the gun stored with the slide retracted. I'll try those higher pressure rounds tomorrow or Thursday to see how they run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czechbikr View Post
    I've not tried that yet, but load them fairly short as my PT 111 G2 magazines demand it. I was having an issue with rounds hanging up in those mags when I first got that gun. After cleaning the heck out of those units, I finally figured out that the 9mm rounds which fed fine if my CZ 75 and PT 92 were too long for those magazines.

    I'm operating with the suspicion that the RSA is too strong, from info on the Canik forum. Canik replied to my email telling them of the issue and they are sending a lighter RSA assembly. I also have the gun stored with the slide retracted. I'll try those higher pressure rounds tomorrow or Thursday to see how they run.
    HMMMM??
    I can't remember right now but seems LIKE SOMEONE was having the same problems but with a 45 acp I think it was, and once THEY shortened the OAL up a tad it ran fine.
    But then again I could be wrong?
    If Canik is like CZ then they have pretty short throats, mine ah the shortest chamber of any 9 MM or 45 acp that I own.
    those fat booletts just some times cause problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverstring View Post
    You mentioned running handloads with the Canik? Maybe you have a COL problem. Does the Canik pass the plunk test?
    I personally use the plunk and spin test!
    not only does the boolett plunk but I can take my finger and turn it in the chamber as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olfarhors View Post
    plunk and spin
    Is it just me or do others see double entendres in Olfarhors' postings?
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    Just a reloading note here.

    My Canik TP9V1 runs my Berry's 124 grain Flat Pointed Bullet reloads, with a COL of 1.065 without issue. For that Bullet, I've found that to be the optimal length for Cz's and Cz Clones.
    While the rest of my 9mm Pistols may not need to have that bullet seated that short, they feed and shoot it well, just the same. Velocity is 1130 fps from a Tanfoglio 4.5 inch barrel.


    Canik TP9V1 Accuracy at 50 feet with 124 grain Match Reload
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    Got out to the range this afternoon, it's National Relaxation Day after all. It was a redux with the Sig and the Canik. Pretty sure the Sig sights are dead on...it's the shooter. Didn't shoot it from a rest, but was able to put them on center. The Canik was loaded with the 9mm 124 Grain PRN with the 4.8 grains of HP38, about 8% heavier than I usually load them. I ran 40 rounds through with out a single FTE . I wondered if the RSA was getting looser so I loaded a magazine with the usual lighter rounds and...FTF every time. I should be getting the lighter RSA that Century is sending this week and I'll have to get back out to try it again with the standard loads.
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