I have been trying to dial in the shots with the sight adjustments because the shots are low and left. This is one of two G2c's we have and I noticed that the barrel is not centered in the slide assembly barrel opening. Being new to handguns I wonder if this is normal.
While it's possible shooting low and left has to do with the firearm itself , I've seen this problem mainly with the shooter themselves. I am by no means an expert , but I've seen this with many new people shooting pistols over the years.
You should research shooting low and left , shooting low and shooting left, maybe this can help. Plus it never hurts to have someone else shoot your firearm before you adjust the sights and compare the results.
If you are hitting low and left and you are a right-handed shooter, that is typically due to squeezing the grip too hard with your right hand. Instead of squeezing, push forward with your right hand and pull backward with your left hand. This is known as the "push-pull" method. I've been teaching it to my students for years.
The above chart shows a lot of symptoms. If you can discount the firearm itself, (shoot from a solid rest with as much of the firearm supported by the rest as possible) and chalk it up to the shooter, the symptoms are commonly caused by two major factors. (This is for a right hand shooter. Exactly the opposite applies for a southpaw). Trigger control and follow through. 1) Trigger control. In the case of a single action, just the pad of the trigger finger. DAO, the first joint of the trigger finger. Low left often a result of anticipation of recoil. and you have a tendency to compensate just before the shot breaks. A good cure for this is to repeat to yourself "squeeze, squeeze, squeeze............" until the shot breaks. This helps to take your mind off your trigger finger. You should be slightly surprised when the shot breaks. 2) Follow through. This is simply maintaining a good sight picture until the round impacts the target. Sounds simple, but is a little more complicated than it appears. The way I teach follow through is to have my student trap the trigger back for a count of two and then release to the reset with the same speed as the trigger was pressed, while keeping your sight picture. So the sequence is (squeeze, bang, 1,2, release, reset. In the case of a revolver being shot in single action, of course you need to take your finger off the trigger, and therefore there really is not a reset. But if you practice the above follow through and it becomes muscle memory, you can modify the technique for a revolver. Two universal constants in the shooting world. 1) After the round leaves the muzzle, nothing you can do will affect the point of impact. 2) Before the round leaves the muzzle, everything you do will affect the point of impact. As for the reset position on the trigger, keep in mind that to take your finger off the trigger, and reapply the finger to the trigger, you are exercising muscles from your finger to your shoulder. To just allow the finger to go to the trigger reset position, you are exercising muscles from your finger to your wrist. In order to get consistent follow on shots, the muscles used have to be reset in a consistent manner.
If you already know all of this, feel free to chalk it up the braying of an old man. I'm past the age where vanity is an issue. Hope it helps a little.
I appreciate all the input. It gives me something to work on at the next range outing. I figured it was the barrel after I started aiming at the target higher and right and the impact was very close to dead center. Shows how an inexperienced shooter thinks, right? Thanks.
Many of us have been there. The shorter the barrel (sight radius) the more difficult it is to shoot accurately. Smaller deviations off the sight mark translate into bigger misses at the target.
No, no, no... it's NEVER the shooter. If you can't blame the gun, you can use an excuse from the following list:
The sun was in my eyes.
The wind was too strong.
My shoe came untied.
The ammo was defective.
It was too cold.
It was too hot.
The support holding the target was too wobbly.
It was the Coriolis effect.
I was trying to miss that bird that flew across the field of fire.
There was a spider on the front sight.
I think you can see how this works now.
But aside from practicing your excuses, there are a number of useful drills you can do.
Dry fire. Practice at home, watch to see if your sights move when you pull the trigger. When dry firing they should remain rock steady... or at least wobble in a circle centered on the target.
Pick up some dummy rounds. If you reload or know a reloader, have them make some rounds without powder or primer. If that's not available, buy some snap caps. have a friend load your cylinder or magazine without letting you see what he's doing... What he's doing is putting a couple of dummy rounds in your gun such that you won't know where they are. When you come to those, it will be very obvious to you what you are doing wrong. This is one of the best drills available.
There are others, but these will get you going in the right direction.
Looks normal to me, like all my other pistols.
Low/left for a right handed shooter usually means to little finger on trigger, pushing pistol to left when shooting.
Try putting more finger on trigger.
I thought my guns shot low and left until I found out it was me. There are a bunch of videos on YouTube about it. It hit me one day that all of my guns couldn't have the same sight problem.
All of the posted opinions I am sure are correct. So here is one more.
Get the correct grip on the handgun and rest your hands on a firm rest, not rigid. See how slow you can squeeze the trigger to the point where
you are surprised by the shot breaking. Go to the range alone, you are trying to learn how to manipulate the trigger not b.s. with a buddy. For me, the grip on the handgun is 70% weak hand 30 % strong hand/trigger finger. Serious shooters keep good records.
Also these guns are especially prone to this problem because of how far back the trigger breaks, which gives you an incredibly short backstrap to trigger face distance, way to short to be anywhere near optimal for anyone with medium or larger sized hands.
You can see how this mechanically works with your hand to mess you up by looking at your hand with your fingers relaxed in a half curled position. You can independantly move your index finger a ways back toward your palm like you are squeezing a trigger, but the closer you get your index finger to your palm, and the more pressure it has to exert in that mechanically poor position, the more the rest of your fingers and palm want to twist left as well.
So besides training, anything you can do to increase your trigger face to backstrap distance will help with these guns.
WHAT NEVER LOAD A PIC THAT WAY!!!!! You could shoot me through the internet Just totally irresponsible some one need to yank your almost a gun guy card!!! ....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Yes it is perfectly nermal however I meght nit be
I didn't see a bullet in the barrel when I looked down it. I double checked by pulling the trigger while I was looking so I figured it was safe. Geeez, some snowflake you are.......
I did get to the range to try out a new Armalaser I put on it today. It left target further and further with each shot fired. I turned it off and tried shooting using tips that all of you gave me in this thread.The thing that helped the most was slowly pulling the trigger and not anticipating the percussion. I appreciate all the suggestions and wouldn't mind more. Besides, you're all quarantined and don't have anything better to do...LOL.
I have nothing better to do, so here is another thought. So we think we got the trigger squeeze down pretty good. Well, lets find out. With your Tx22 unloaded and in your room with plenty of natural light. Grip the gun the way you normally shoot, point it at the wall, focus completely on the front sight and dry fire the gun. Do this until
you realize what the sight is doing. In most cases, as the gun goes click, the sight moves to the right or left. If that is the case we need more dry fire time not range time.
I had the same issue when I first used my G2C. As others mention, low and to the left is trigger pull and grip. What I learned to do was to use the memory pad on the left near the slide and apply a stronger grip there. When I pulled the trigger I was pushing the gun a bit and that pressure keeps me from the gun going left and low. Also, I put a new trigger on mine but thats a different story. Enjoy your G2C, I love mine.
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