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    The American consumer has been conditioned to expect the price points of cheap imported junk.
    And then whine like a three year old when it also has the reliability of cheap imported junk.
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    I remember 'far too' many years ago, I had a Craftsman wrench set and one of the wrenches actually cracked. Took that wrench to the tool dept at Sears when they still had employees working there. Showed the employee the wrench and he took it, went into the back storage room and came back out with a brand new wrench. Handed it to me, and sent my on my way, no questions asked. Those days are GONE! I still have that entire wrench set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slong115 View Post
    I remember 'far too' many years ago, I had a Craftsman wrench set and one of the wrenches actually cracked. Took that wrench to the tool dept at Sears when they still had employees working there. Showed the employee the wrench and he took it, went into the back storage room and came back out with a brand new wrench. Handed it to me, and sent my on my way, no questions asked. Those days are GONE! I still have that entire wrench set.
    The days of the full service Department Stores selling quality merchandise has passed as consumers embraced the low price, save a buck mindset. Shoppers have flocked to discount marts or gone online to spend their money on super bargain priced goods of questionable quality. I confess, I have been guilty too.
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    No China Craftsman for me. I only buy Craftsman tools at estate sales these days. I've found a lot of good buys over the years. Here is a couple of my most recent good deals.

    I bought this box of Craftsman at an estate sale for $60 a while back.




    I bought this box of Craftsman wrenches for $24.

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    Amateur. I've got a Sears 12 drawer tool chest, plus a 14 drawer chest sitting on a 6 drawer under carriage, with open end, box end, and open/box end in both English and Metric sizes, plus their full range of regular, deep well, and impact sockets in ¼ inch and ½ inch and the most common ¾ inch sizes. with the full range of vice grips, channel locks, slot and phillips screwdrivers from jewelers up to the big two handed ones. ¼" and ½" drills, air ratchets, and too many English and Metric allen wrenches to count. I was an electro-mechanical maintenance man in a ball bearing factory for almost 30 years and they required Sears tools because if I broke one, Sears would replace it. My entire setup is similar to the one below only with an under carriage. Since retiring I try to avoid using it at all cost.


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    I've been a tool collector since I was nine, trying to keep my Lawnboy running. Even now as then, most of the tools I own are swap meet specials. Then my stepfather, Lester, gave me my first 3/8'' drive socket set. S-K Wayne tools, they were made like jewels back then. That set walked off whilst working on my old school bus in the Special Services garage at Point Loma. Broke my heart.

    My last decade of service at. J.I. Case Company, was spent as the plant's assembly tool specialist. With tools, it's pretty much you get for what you pay for.

    When NAFTA hit, American tool manufacturing took a tremendous nose dive. U.S. bearings in U.S. made pneumatic tools were being replaced by products made in Japan, China & Taiwan. A new 1/2" air ratchet wrench made by Chicago Pneumatic(full of foreign bearings) cost Case $156 per, and that was 20 years ago. On top of that, C.P. repair part costs were astronomical. This was the most abused and stolen tool in the Burlington plant. I convinced my boss to purchase a dozen Central Pneumatic wrenches as trial replacements. The tools held up better than expected, so for the cost to replace a sprung ratcheting pawl, we could replace the broken tool with three new brand new Chinese clones costing $9.99 per.

    As for Craftsman tools in general, it's always been store brand name stamped on a lowest bidder's product. Days of their industrial grade tools are long gone.

    Last time I bought a Craftsman tool set, it also contained a mix of car emergency items. First time I used the set, I'd noticed that the metric socket set was missing their size roll stamps. I returned the whole tool kit to Sears and exchanged it for an equally defective set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texastaurusguy View Post
    Sears sold the brand to Lowes, you can't walk 2 feet inside Lowes now and not see Craftsman this and Craftsman that. I've heard the same stories about poor quality in the newer tools.

    I have Craftsman tools that my dad had, and some that my stepfather had. They are quality tools and will be around long after I'm gone, working just like they were designed but in my kids and grandkid's garages. There is a lot of truth in the old saying, "They don't make 'em like they used to".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWB View Post
    Amateur. I've got a Sears 12 drawer tool chest, plus a 14 drawer chest sitting on a 6 drawer under carriage, with open end, box end, and open/box end in both English and Metric sizes, plus their full range of regular, deep well, and impact sockets in ¼ inch and ½ inch and the most common ¾ inch sizes. with the full range of vice grips, channel locks, slot and phillips screwdrivers from jewelers up to the big two handed ones. ¼" and ½" drills, air ratchets, and too many English and Metric allen wrenches to count. I was an electro-mechanical maintenance man in a ball bearing factory for almost 30 years and they required Sears tools because if I broke one, Sears would replace it. My entire setup is similar to the one below only with an under carriage. Since retiring I try to avoid using it at all cost.


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    Good story there Mr. Professional, so how much did you pay for all this stuff? I would bet it's more than $60 bucks.

 

 
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