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    Just wondering if businesses in the USA employ the use of 'Flexi-Time' working? I'm retired now but, after my Army service, I worked for the GB equivalent of your State Department and we had Flexi-time working. This was governed by your standard working day hours, in my case 7hrs and 42 minutes. If, for example, I worked 8.5 hours I accrued the extra time and I could 'bank' up to 21 hours per month. This meant I could book Flexi-Days off and not loose any of my 35 day annual leave. It was great for padding out public holidays.. like Easter, I would book time off on the Wednesday / Thursday, Friday and Monday were public holidays, book Tuesday and it meant I had a whole week off.. great system as long as you keep the hours in credit.

    Akd me if I miss those days..? Not a bit. No getting up at 05.00 and being at my desk for 07.00. No comuter train to endure, no Civil Service PC crap. I'm done, and the last 6 years have been a blast..
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    I imagine that some companies do that but would be in the small minority here. Since we are money grubbing Americans, time worked past eight hours in a day are paid at time and a half. Some places at double time after four hours and holidays worked are at 2 1/2 times the hourly rate. Our society and culture do not place as much value on time away from the job as Europeans and I thinks that is to our detriment. Some companies will pay the worker for unused vacation days that the employee couldn't or wouldn't use. While at a major airline a benefit that was introduced was a flex vacation. This was an extra week off that the employee funded themselves having the percentage of the pay deducted from their check each pay period. It was bid in seniority after all of the earned company vacation was allotted. I ALWAYS took the flex week. Being in passenger service it was a survival thing to decompress and travel somewhere.

    Here's a stat on unused vacation in the USA>

    https://www.ustravel.org/press/study...-cost-billions

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    Given the last career, the thing I miss most about the airline was the structure. True that due to the seniority system I worked 1400-2230 with weekdays off for many years and the worse things that occur in the airline biz happen in the evenings, but the six weeks vacation that I knew were scheduled on the calendar were a pressure relief valve (one week being the flex week).

    I'm fond of saying that for many years I wanted to be my own boss...but then I found out that I don't like working for the bastard. Plus with a home office...one is always at work.
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    Municipality here. Our police and fire are civil service and have something called comp time that they can bank and use instead of working, use in addition to working and also get over time or cash out any time when they bank goes over 50 hours.
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    Unless it's recently changed, Georgia labor law forbids comp time/flex time for hourly workers. Every minute you work has to show up in your paycheck.
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    It's company specific and will vary by State depending on their labor laws. Some employers abused it and that made the States regulate it. Like making you work 70 hours one week and then be slow to allow your time-off. That's mostly about employees paid hourly.

    U.S Labor and Wage laws are incredibly complex and you have to deal with the State laws layered on top of the Federal Laws. I went through two Wage & Hour audits with the U.S. Department of Labor. It's almost impossible not to violate something.

    This is the only thing we got tagged on: We had a production bonus. If certain metrics were exceeded on a monthly basis the excess was split in two and one half of it became a bonus pool. The pool was the equally divided amongst the hourly employees only. Didn't matter if you were the head supervisor or swept the floors everybody got an equal share. There were some things that would disqualify you. You lost a third for every day absent for example. Anything lost stayed in the pool.

    We almost always hit the bonus. Sometimes it wasn't much, maybe $50, other times it could be over $200. Not a fortune to some but helpful to those low on the pay scale. When we got audited that told us that was non-compliant. We had to increase an employees share based on any overtime they worked in the period. So in other words we had to pay it out proportionally based on a "share of total man hours worked" basis, not just an equal amount to everybody.

    We had to have the accounting folks go back through two years of payroll and timesheets and pay out extra to those that got "shorted" because they had worked overtime. Overtime was pretty common in our plant. Technically we over-paid those that didn't work any overtime but it's not like we were going to dock them for it. After thousands of dollars worth of forensic accounting we ended up paying out something like $2800 split among less than 20 employees.

    One of the audits was triggered by an ex-employee that made false claims. We passed that one. The other was because a direct competitor got caught doing some seriously shady things and they figured we are probably doing the same. Uh, no. The good news is the penalties, fines, and back wages put our competitor out of business.
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    ^^ A headache like that for a company is enough to make them scrap the plan and just pay on the hour...period.
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    In my years working shift in a chemical plant, I've worked straight days, 8 hour rotation, then 12 hour rotation. 12 hour rotation is exactly what it sounds like, 12 hours a day rotating from 6AM to 6PM, then 6PM to 6AM. We got sick time 40 hours a year, that's it. Once a month we got a "long change", 7 days off, like a little mini vacation.

    I'm happily retired now. Best I can say about working is that it paid well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManxTom View Post
    Just wondering if businesses in the USA employ the use of 'Flexi-Time' working? I'm retired now but, after my Army service, I worked for the GB equivalent of your State Department and we had Flexi-time working. This was governed by your standard working day hours, in my case 7hrs and 42 minutes. If, for example, I worked 8.5 hours I accrued the extra time and I could 'bank' up to 21 hours per month. This meant I could book Flexi-Days off and not loose any of my 35 day annual leave. It was great for padding out public holidays.. like Easter, I would book time off on the Wednesday / Thursday, Friday and Monday were public holidays, book Tuesday and it meant I had a whole week off.. great system as long as you keep the hours in credit.

    Akd me if I miss those days..? Not a bit. No getting up at 05.00 and being at my desk for 07.00. No comuter train to endure, no Civil Service PC crap. I'm done, and the last 6 years have been a blast..
    I used to work for a very large company and we didn't have set hours. We were expected to show up, but we would come and go as we pleased. If something was going on my life, I'd show up early, leave late, or take very long lunch breaks. No big deal. As a software developer, I was just expected to get my projects done on time, and support the garbage I had running in the field.

    The company I am at now is 8-5. If you want time off, you take vacation hours.

    It is basically up to the employer as to how tight a reign they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texheim View Post
    Municipality here. Our police and fire are civil service and have something called comp time that they can bank and use instead of working, use in addition to working and also get over time or cash out any time when they bank goes over 50 hours.
    My sister is in this situation. She got married right out of high school and began a job in the county tag office of where we grew up. Now, after 40 years she is the senior most person in her office - heck, she is the senior most employee in the entire county government. She has accrued something along the order of 650 days off and has no plans to officially use them . . . except when she retires which she can now do and still receive full time pay for a year and a half.

    Me? I enjoyed being my own boss. I took paid vacations whenever I wanted to and was solely responsible for handling my retirement benefits.
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    The last factory I worked in, I was "Supervisor of Tools & Gages" for thirteen years. My salary (technically) was based on a 45-hour week.

    When we started to qualify for ISO 9000, my workload multiplied enormously, and the VP-Quality made me the offer - "Just write the manuals, standardize all three plants and get the job done. Keep your own hours. " Pay was computed on hourly rate and I could take it as salary, Or I could bank as many hours as I liked and take it whenever I liked. So I guess you would call that "Flex".
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