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    Amber Guyger guilty of murder

    "A jury found Amber Guyger guilty of murder Tuesday for the killing of Botham Jean in September of last year.

    The former Dallas police officer now faces 5 to 99 years in prison. Applause could be heard from the audience and Jean’s family could be seen in tears after the verdict was announced.

    The jury deliberated Monday afternoon and Tuesday morning over whether Guyger was guilty of murder or manslaughter when she shot her upstairs neighbor on Sept. 6, 2018. Guyger was still in uniform when she fatally shot Jean, and had just ended her shift when she returned to the apartment complex where they both lived in Dallas."

    I think that conclusion became clear with some of the additional information revealed in the trial, particularly that she was aware someone was in the apartment before she entered, and that she had been explicitly instructed not to enter a locale in that situation, but to call for back-up.

    If she had called for back-up as instructed, she would have realized she was at the wrong apartment...at least by the time the responding back-up had played, "We're here, where are you?"

    Deciding not to follow police procedure was not a "tragic mistake."
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    Congrtulations to the jury on this one.
    Amber Guyger did a very stupid thing, and has been properly rewarded for her actions. May she get the maximum possible sentence. It would serve her right.
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    She shot a guy in his own home. What did you expect?
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    This is one of those times when we are on privy to everything that the jury heard, nor were they privy to everything that the public heard during the time in which they were being sequestered.

    The jury had to pass judgement on the facts presented in the courtroom and I respect their decision as such. Not saying that I agree with it or disagree with it, but I do commend them for serving under what must have been very trying circumstances both personal, and emotional.

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    That would have been a tough jury to be on...what did it for me however was the red doormat in front of the door. Did she think that the intruder wanted to feel welcome and at home? sheesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonrjen View Post
    This is one of those times when we are on privy to everything that the jury heard, nor were they privy to everything that the public heard during the time in which they were being sequestered.

    The jury had to pass judgement on the facts presented in the courtroom and I respect their decision as such. Not saying that I agree with it or disagree with it, but I do commend them for serving under what must have been very trying circumstances both personal, and emotional.
    Actually, this is a time that we were privy to everything that the jury heard (and actually more, because the jury wasn't in the court room for everything). The trial was carried live in the news. And it was a short trial, easy to follow.
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    Without a motive, I can't agree on murder, but she does deserve the maximum allowed for negligent homicide. Dallas already had her on the gurney, ready for the injection. The racial mood in dallas is vicious, and regardless of jury findings, I expected demonstrations and riots with looting. That's still more than a possibility, regardless of sentence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassrh View Post
    Without a motive, I can't agree on murder, but she does deserve the maximum allowed for negligent homicide. Dallas already had her on the gurney, ready for the injection. The racial mood in dallas is vicious, and regardless of jury findings, I expected demonstrations and riots with looting. That's still more than a possibility, regardless of sentence.
    I agree it's a tough one for me to come to grips on. First and foremost she took an innocent life and has to pay the price. On the other hand I don't think anybody believes for one second she had intentions of killing that person with malice. It was a mistake. A really, really bad stupid mistake or series of mistakes. That doesn't get her off the hook by any means but it doesn't make her a murderer either. Sadly for our society the fact that he was black went against her. Personally I think it's obvious her life is forever changed as it should be but a long sentence isn't going to bring that fellow back.
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    I would have though criminally negligent homicide, not murder. However, I was not in the courtroom nor was I on the jury. And until anyone can come up with a better system of justice, this in the one we have. At least there will be no riots in south Dallas tonight. (I'll prolly get gigged for that one...)
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    It was not murder.

    It was negligent homicide, but not murder.

    In her mind, she was shooting an intruder that came towards her. The forensic evidence did not dispute her account of him coming towards her. In her mind, she was in her home and he was coming at her.

    Her key card had opened his door. This was due to his locking mechanism not being installed correctly and it would not latch tightly. These locks were near field locks which meant you just put your card on or near the pad and the lock would open.

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