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    Writing Letters

    I am sure some of you have already seen my posts in the RED FLAG thread so I guess this is for those that haven't.

    With the events of the past few weeks with all the shootings and the nonstop news cycles all characterized as Gun Violence and the Call to ARMS by the Gun Control Crowd I just couldn't sit by any longer. It was all driving me mad. All the stories and false accusations and assertions. The Constant Call that "We Have To Do Something!" even if it's wrong or won't solve the problem because these Knee Jerk Reaction Laws fail to address any of the real problems or root causes of all this insanity. The only purpose of these laws being proposed is to further curb and restrict Law Abiding gun owners or would be gun owners.

    Please, please, please do not allow this thread to become political and nasty, do not point fingers or stoop to calling names. But let us have an honest discussion with ideas as to what needs to be done or can be done while not trampling on anyone's Civil Rights.

    AS I stated in the other thread, already this week I have contacted and sent email letters to Six of my state Representatives and also to my US Rep Bryan Steil. I whole heartedly ask that each of us do the same thing. Just express yourself and make yourself heard. One voice, mine, won't make a lot of noise but if we all do it maybe it will make a whimper! I'm not asking everyone to agree with me on any issue but just to at least listen.

    I am pained to say but I believe we have a long upward battle ahead of us. Between Red Flag Laws, UBC and Firearms bans laws coming it is going to get hot and heavy and if we have another span like the past few weeks we may lose!
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    When they can figure out how to legislate Morality and Conscience I will consider talking more gun laws.


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    This is very good, I have done the same thing in the past on other issues. I see it as our duty as citizens to contact our representatives at any level and let them know how "We The People" feel about the issues of the day. To me the problem is not the gun, but the disturbed individual that was able to get their hands on a gun. It could have easily been a knife, a car, a bat or anything else that could have been use as a lethal weapon. We need to let our representatives know to focus on the individuals, not the object that was used as a lethal weapon. Contact your representatives, it's your right to do so.
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    Thanks for the reminder. I've been meaning to do this but other work has gotten in the way. It's doesn't take but a few minutes and no one should worry about how well that they write or if it does any good. They basically count number for and against...it's important for those of us who believe in our God given rights as guaranteed by our constitution to stand up and be counted.

    Thanks again..
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    I agree it's important to support ideas that place the blame for gun violence where it belongs, which is not on an inanimate object. The problem is, where do you find a government entity that embraces that viewpoint? Just writing letters can be counterproductive. Sending a letter on gun violence to someone whose ideas for solutions all (or almost all) involve restricting access likely will be lumped in with the hysterical grabbers petitions and used as supporting evidence for whatever stance is politically popular at that particular moment.

    Our support has to be to someone/something that supports our 2A rights and is willing and able to go toe to toe with those who would deny that right. And has the resources to put itself into the media spotlight. The only one I know of today is the NRA, and there have been several posts in these forums negative to that organization. Are there others? It would take a great deal of courage and money to try to withstand the tidal wave from the other viewpoint.

    One "common sense" point of the gun control crowd is, "Do something. It's better than nothing." And we mostly agree, that's not going to be effective. Likewise, sending letters to anyone who does not openly support our views also will not be effective.
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    So don't write....be silent....don't let anyone else know that it matters to you.
    “…democratic socialism, the great utopia of the last few generations, is not only unachievable but that to strive for it produces something utterly different – the very destruction of freedom itself. As has been aptly said: ‘What has always made the state a hell on earth has been precisely that man has tried to make it his heaven.'” F.A. Hayek

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    I've gotten the standard form letters back from my senators, Scott and Rubio, both stating they love the second amendment, but...
    My rep. Lois Frankel is a full fledged commie.
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    I would like to make some constructive suggestions:
    Write your state and Federal legislators in a personal manner. Our state DOES have some pro-2A legislators and Senators. Of course, not all are pro-2A.
    Make it a point to call every office of your state and Federal legislators who are pro-2A and tell them your views. Then call the others.
    Write a letter to our President Donald Trump. He may or may not read it, but someone will read it.
    Take a shower, shave, put on a sport coat or suit, make an appointment and go see your state legislator and just sit down and talk with him or her. It IS your prerogative.
    Go to an event where law makers are present, suitably dressed (see above) and talk to them face to face.

    Everyone can do at least ONE of the suggestions above. Be polite, courteous, and be a good listener. Express your self well. Practice if you need to and take notes with you if needed.
    This year I attended an event where our state's Attorney General was the keynote speaker. Afterwards, I went up and introduced myself and we talked for at least 5 or 10 minutes. Yes I was wearing a dark suit, white shirt and tie. Some people I know were astounded that I did that. Lol. He was open, friendly, and listened. (It was about another matter besides 2A).

    So, I encourage everyone to step out of their comfort zone, step up, and speak/write for our U.S Constitution and the 2A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rollin thunder View Post
    I've gotten the standard form letters back from my senators, Scott and Rubio, both stating they love the second amendment, but...
    My rep. Lois Frankel is a full fledged commie.
    Back a number of years ago there was a Bill going through the state and to the floor for a vote. I again sent letters. One member was on our side and one was a Dem against the Bill. I received a very nice form letter from her. It was actually quite a cold letter at that. It thanked me for contacting her office, a short explanation of her stance and a "Have a Good Day." closing. Unfortunately she is well seated in the Milwaukee area and a hard core Democrat. Near impossible to replace but I still had to voice my opposition to her view. The Bill passed in spite of her.

    That is just the nature of the business. I am extremely grateful Mr. Steil or a staff member took the time to respond to at least some of my questions and concern. W/o hearing directly from us, their constituency, they do not know how we feel, really. They are not mind readers nor do they have a crystal ball. Besides, who knows, maybe I expressed myself in a manner and brought up points that haven't occurred to them before. After all they are only human also.
    I am a Veteran, I am a Husband, Father, Grandfather, Great Grandfather.
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    When they can figure out how to legislate Morality and Conscience I will consider talking more gun laws.


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    I'm with NotSo here. If the reps gave a crap, none of these fantasy laws would even get to a second reading. Also, it seems these kinds of laws only get passed through secretive, late night "emergency" sessions designed to circumvent any and all public opposition. Honest people and legitimate legislators just don't do that. I fear our best and only option is to get them out of office asap and that requires appealing to their constituents, the voters. Unfortunately, social media is censoring-out all things pro-American or pro-Constitution so that won't work. Maybe the best option is to initiate and push recall petitions against them to have them removed from office?. Even if it doesn't proceed to finality, just having a recall initiated by the people is a black mark on any politician's record and could cost them support across the board. There's not a politician out there who won't change position to get/keep votes and retain their place on the gravy train.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSo View Post
    Our support has to be to someone/something that supports our 2A rights and is willing and able to go toe to toe with those who would deny that right. And has the resources to put itself into the media spotlight. The only one I know of today is the NRA, and there have been several posts in these forums negative to that organization. Are there others? It would take a great deal of courage and money to try to withstand the tidal wave from the other viewpoint.

    One "common sense" point of the gun control crowd is, "Do something. It's better than nothing." And we mostly agree, that's not going to be effective. Likewise, sending letters to anyone who does not openly support our views also will not be effective.
    Our support to someone or something that supports the 2nd is You and I, and everyone else that believes in the 2nd Amendment. It's not the NRA or any state club or group. Again it is individuals, we are the ones that Vote not the NRA, not a state organization. We as a group join those groups to have a collective voice. But those Groups do not have a Vote, they only have a Voice.

    Do you believe the Control crowd would have the power they do if they were quiet? Not hardly. We need to get as loud and active as they are. Maybe it's time to start showing up at rallies and town halls en mass as an organized group. Think they'd take notice?

    Yes it is going to take courage and commitment to withstand the coming onslaught of new laws and regulations the Controllers want to pass. We need to make it known that these laws are a false narrative and will not stop anything because they do not address the problem. They only play to emotion, cover up the problem and advance their agenda.
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    I am a Veteran, I am a Husband, Father, Grandfather, Great Grandfather.
    I was labeled a Deplorable, now I'm a Nationalist rather than a Globalist! As a USA Veteran I will proudly wear that to protect our Nation!
    When they can figure out how to legislate Morality and Conscience I will consider talking more gun laws.


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